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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2005, 06:48:34 PM »
Queen Olga of Greece was Constantine's daughter, right? Mother of Olga, Elizabeth and Duchess Marina of Kent?
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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2005, 11:34:53 PM »
Grand Duchess Olga Konstaninovna of Russia, latter the Queen of the Hellenes was the daughter of Grand Duke Konstantin Nikolaievich, second son of Emperor Nikolas I.

She was the grandmother, not the mother of the Princess Olga, latter Princess of Yugoslavia; of the Princess Elizabeth, latter Countess von Toerring-Jettenbach; of the Princess Marina, latter Duchess of Kent. The mother of the three Greek princesses was Grand Duchess Helen Vladimirovna of Russia (sister of Grand Duke Kyrill). Grand Duchess Olga Konstaninovna was also the grandmother of the present Duke of Edinburgh.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2005, 04:56:40 PM »
ooh..okay...here we go with the too many Olgas thing again...oh, I remember! It was Olga's son and his wife Elena Vladimirovna, they were the parents of Olga, Elizabeth and Marina, right? :)
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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2005, 05:27:11 PM »
You are correct.

The parents of the three women are HRH Prince Nicholas of Greece and Denmark and his wife HIH Grand Duchess Helena Vladimirovna of Russia.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2005, 08:30:14 PM »
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I don't know a lot about this particular Romanov, but I just read on of the Romanov websites that some  historians believe that Nicholas I poisoned himself after receiving news of the defeat of Russian forces at Evpatoria. It sounds a little strange and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this. Thanks!


Nicholas definitely did not poison himself, and he didn't deliberately make himself sick because he wanted to die.

The Battle of Evpatoria that you allude to was a small and inconsequential battle. By no means did it have any impact on the overall course of the Crimean War.

As for the Crimean War itself, even though the Russians were not performing well, defeat was not a certainty when Nicholas died. There was still reason for believing that the Allies might ultimately be repulsed at Sevastapol.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2005, 04:10:42 PM »
Thanks Dave. But I have one more question...lol...what's with the title Her/His Imperial & Royal Highness? Wasn't that what Grand Duchess Elena's title was after she married Greek Nicholas? How does that title work?
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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2005, 09:24:26 AM »
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what's with the title Her/His Imperial & Royal Highness? Wasn't that what Grand Duchess Elena's title was after she married Greek Nicholas? How does that title work?

At Russian court Imperial Highness always was considered higher than any other sort (Royal, Grand Ducal etc). So double title was not necessary and never used. Each consort could had own higher style.

For example in the official lists you can see "HH Prince John and HRH Princess Helene" or "HIH GDss Marie Alexandrovna, The Duchess of Edinburgh and HRH The Duke of Edinburgh".

Other courts could had their different rules.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2005, 11:52:43 AM »
In my opinion Nikolai I was one of the greatest emperors Russia ever had, on an equal footing with Peter the Great and Catherine the Great.
Under his reign Russia reached its greatest extension, and it was the last era in the Russian tsaristic history which was untroubled by assassinations etc.


The Russian Empire (around 1850)
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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2005, 12:22:32 PM »
Dear Emp. N. I.,

You forgot to colour in the present day countries of Lithuania and Latvia. I did not see a red dot near San Francisco to represent Fort Rossiya (Fort Ross).

In regard to Russian-America on the map circa 1850, I believe that it reflects an earlier period, say 1810. In 1821 Tsar Aleksander I of Russia decreed that all lands along the Pacific Ocean from the Bering Strait to 51° north latitude belonged to Russia and that henceforth foreign shipping would be prohibited within 160 km (100 mi) of the claimed lands. This claim bit deep into the Oregon Territory, and, on US President Monroe's instructions, John Quincy Adams sent the Russian minister a note refusing to recognize the tsar's decree:

“We should contest the right of Russia to any territorial establishment on this continent,” wrote Adams, adding that “we should assume distinctly the principle that the American continents are no longer subjects for any new European colonial establishments.” The tsar's claim was untenable, and he backed down. In April 1824, Russia signed a treaty agreeing to form no settlements on the northwest coast south of 54°40' north latitude, with the United States agreeing to make no settlements north of that line.

The line represented the approximate boundary between Alaska, which was the only part of North America that Russia had colonized extensively, and the Oregon country, to which the United States had a claim by virtue of exploration.

In 1839, the Hudson Bay Company and the Russian American Fur Company signed an accord in which the Russians gave up claim to the Yukon and parts of present day British Columbia.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2005, 12:30:38 PM »
Dear David,

I think you are right. I found this map yesterday in the internet, it is not my own one. ;D
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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2006, 10:51:59 AM »
He didn't poison himself, nor would he have. I think he was stressed, strained, and life weary after the Crimean War, as well as getting older, so it's natural he came down with an illness that led to death. I think his attitude may have been rather life weary, but I think that's the extent of it. His death was natural, whatever he was feeling, poisoning himself woudn't have occured to him.

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2006, 10:01:00 AM »
Is there anywhere a photograph of Nicholas I? I have read that there is at least one, but I can't find it anywhere! :'(

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2006, 10:43:24 AM »
Hello and welcome!

Well, I think it might be something very rare...

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2006, 11:08:48 AM »
I've never seen any PHOTO of Nikolay I. As I read this Emperor did not respect photography  :(

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Re: Emperor Nicholas I
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2006, 12:07:55 PM »
You might have better luck looking here.   :)