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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2006, 10:37:23 AM »
It's a great book, the best put out there on the subject, it examines evidence both ways. I am not sure about whether Alexander was Feodor Kuzmich. but I do believe he had some connection to the Imperial Family, that he was not just a noble. Whether he was Alexander or Paul I's illegitmate son, the evidence seems overwhelming after reading that book. I believe that they should do DNA testing, and the like on the remains purported to be Alexander I, if there are any, and perhaps the remains said to be those of Feodor Kuzmich as well. Until anything is proven, by scientific means, I keep an open mind.

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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2006, 11:24:54 AM »
I think  re-opening the tomb is actually scheduled for some timew in the future, as part of a total renovation and flood prevention project. It is just a matter of time and funding. I would bet, however, that they are not going to do it just to satisfy our curiosity !
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2006, 12:20:19 PM »
Really? If they will prove DNA tests, I think it will be very interesting! But I also think, that they wont do it...

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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2006, 12:35:08 PM »
I think they would if someone pays for it. Of course the church would have to approve as well.
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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #49 on: April 07, 2006, 01:32:19 AM »
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Medical treatment? What kind of medical treatment?

Well, usual panacea of those times: blood-letting, emetic, purgative...That was hardly a proper treatment in the case with Alexander. :-/

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2006, 10:37:49 AM »
I hope they do open it, although I think it would not just be to satisfy our curiosity of course! And if they do, it would be wise to do the testing to lay this myth to rest either way, if there is anything there, or to at least began to have some possibilities. It's been a mystery so long, and I think it is as valid as the Anna Anderson case, in that it should be solved, although even then speculation will continue, I suppose.

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« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2006, 01:03:45 PM »
And is there anybody, who has got any pics of Feodor? I found there one:

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/cgi-bin/jurnal.cgi?item=1r600r040309155036

but the text is in very difficult languge...
 
If anybody has got the pics of Feodor, please, can you post them there? Thanks a lot!

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« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2006, 01:08:05 PM »
...oh, Im sorry, I gave there a wrong website, this is the right website of a pic...

http://www.pravoslavie.ru/cgi-bin/jurnal.cgi?item=1r600r040309155034

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2006, 08:38:02 PM »
There was a picture of him in the book I read; but it was library book, so it had to go back. It's said that Alexander I, and Feodor Kuzmitch did resemble each other, but from pictures it's hard to tel.

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2006, 08:02:55 PM »
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I think re-opening the tomb is actually scheduled for some timew in the future, as part of a total renovation and flood prevention project. It is just a matter of time and funding. I would bet, however, that they are not going to do it just to satisfy our curiosity !


Hi Robert - This would be exciting news.  I think you were part of some previous conversations we had about the deplorable state of the tombs.

If you have any info on this could you post it/email it to me?

Many thanks!

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #55 on: April 12, 2006, 08:32:45 AM »
Along with the last person, this would be exciting news to me. Feodor Kuzmitch may not be factually Alexander I, but it would be interestting to know, and to put a long standing mystery to rest.

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #56 on: April 12, 2006, 10:31:06 AM »
There is another thread on this now, but I enjoyed reading the debate here. I think the tomb should be opened, and if there are any remains, then we can put to rest these rumours one way or the other, if these remains are his or not, or if they are not his, whose are they are? If they are his, then there is no Fedodor Kuzmitch myth anymore. It could be true; or perhaps not, because myths like this seem to flourish throughout history. As for getting away with it, he was Czar and Autocrat of Russia, and if he wanted to to fake his own death, and lead a different life, then no matter how credible the authorities would have had to do whatever he said, and go along with him. There wasn't a choice for them.  There is no hard evidence is tomb is empty, or if it does have someone, that it's not him,  that is just rumours. It could be true-or perhaps not.

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2008, 08:02:42 AM »
The portrait of FK show an interesting similitude beetwen him and Alexandre I. I wonder when was this portrait done? After his death or before and who is the "artist"?

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Re: Emperor Alexander I vs Fedor Kuzmitch - a mystery
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2009, 02:49:07 PM »
I read this book called "Imperial legend: The Mysterious Disappearance of Tsar Alexander I" by Alexis S. Troubetzkoy.  It has a ton of great info on this subject.  The author had the privilege of interviewing the Grand Duchess about her opinion before she died.

Interesting, I found that book on Amazon, I think that I will order a copy, I'm very interested to read it: http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Legend-Disappearance-Czar-Alexander/dp/1559706082

But I have to say, maybe I will change my opinion about the legend of Feodor Kuzmich, but for now I don't know if I believe in it...I explane, it was possible that the Tsar Alexander I left his responsibility and his people soo suddenly and staging his own death?...it seems strange to me.
And also, I think that he perfectly know about the suspicious movements in St. Petersburg (I'm referring to the Decembrists), it was possible that he left his country with that impending threat?...I'm undecided.

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2009, 09:45:05 PM »
You see there was a little thing called "guilt about patricide"... probably would be one of the main reasons he left.  If you read that book, you will be a believer.  Trust me.