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Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« on: March 04, 2005, 02:03:27 AM »
Alexander Cuza united the Principalities of Walachia & Moldavia, creating the nucleus of modern Romania. After he was driven out, the Hohenzollerns gained the throne.

Cuza sort of vanishes of the radar after that. I can find almost nothing of his fate in the English speaking web. Does anyone know what happened to him? Did he leave any descendants?
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2005, 02:33:46 AM »
Alexandru Ioan Cuza spent the rest of his life in exile, mostly in Wien and Florence. He died in 1873, age 53 in Heidelberg. He had two children Alexandru and Dimitrie, with his long time mistress Maria Obrenovici, the mother of Milan the future king of Serbia. They were adopted by Elena, Cuza's wife.

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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 12:05:44 PM »


 Romanian or Bulgarian aristocracy?

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 12:48:57 PM »
That is a Romanian prince I think. It is not a Bulgarian name.
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2005, 12:28:01 PM »
Last night I was watching a biography of the actor Errol Flynn.  It stated that he was briefly engaged to 20 year old Princess Irene Riga (spelling?) sometime in the 1950's.  Does anyone know who Princess Irene is?

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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2005, 04:44:03 PM »
In my research so far, I have found a Princess Irina, the daughter of King Michael of Romania.  However, she was born too late in 1953.  Way too young for Errol Flynn to have dated in the early 1950's.  Darn.  There is a good possibility that the program was in error or this was someone just claiming to be royal, I suppose.

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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2005, 08:32:55 AM »
Possibly a Russian Princess?? Definately not a member of the Hohenzollern Sigamarine family of Romania.

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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2005, 10:56:33 AM »
Not long after his divorce from his 2nd (?) wife in 1948 EF became engaged again . In 1950 Flynn was engaged to Romanian Princess Irene Ghika when he starred in “Rocky Mountain” opposite Patrice Wymore. The co-stars fell in love, and although he was 41 and she only 23, married.

That's about all I know. Perhaps she was a princess ala Martha Bibesco (sp?)? I get confused enough with Russian prince/princesses--I don't really know about the other countries hierarchies.
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2005, 11:01:15 AM »
Ghika were at one point ruling family of Wallachia(part of Roumania before Hohenzollerns),Moldavia...and were prominent one in those teritories!For Bibesco I don't know...

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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2005, 10:41:45 PM »
Hello every one! I have come out of lurkerdom to get some info on countess Elizabeth Bathory-What would her childhood, education, and reletionship with her parents have been as a noblewomen in midevil Hungary?What could have turned her into sadistic monster that she was?! pics? Also any info on her parents, if possible.Thanks in advance!

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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2005, 11:08:17 PM »
LOL, maybe too much inbreeding.  I think I read somewhere that her family was very inbred, more so than others anyway.   :D

Apparently though, she came from a pretty "tough" (and that's putting it very lightly) family, it's said she'd witnessed tortures and executions as a child, remember the horse incident?  :-/
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2005, 04:13:21 AM »


Inbreeding was not so common in the Bathory family as it was in other Hungarian noble families or in the Hapsburg dynasty, for example. Elizabeth's parents, George and Anna, were not first cousins, as many pretend them to be, but cousins in sixth grade.

However, I suppose there must have been some type of genetical inheritance that made the Bathorys go mad, as there were at least 5 ''insane'' or ''eccentric'' members in each generation!

Elizabeth's father loved tenderly all of his children but, as a warrior under the orders of the Sacred Empire, he was seldom at home, constantly making war against the Turks. Elizabeth's mother, on the other side, was a beautiful and rich woman with a selfish and nasty character. When she had married George, in 1553, she was 22 years old and already twice a widow with four children. It is said that George was the only person that she ever did love and that, for this reason, she was jealous of her own children, as George loved them above all. Of the 8 children Anna bore George, only 4 survived childhood: Stephen, born in 1555; Elizabeth, born in 1560; Sophia, born in 1562; and Clara, born in 1563.

Anna hated Elizabeth with all her heart, as her daughter grew prettier and prettier every year, whilst Anna's beautiful face started to deteriorate. The Bathory's often behaved in the same way: the sons were educated in the arts of the war, while the daughters were educated to negotiate. This was the case of Elizabeth who, aged 9, already read, wrote and spoke perfectly well in Hungarian, German and Latin. With time she would also be quite well in French, English and Spanish and she would learn a bit of Slovakian, Greek, Russian and Danish (I wonder why she learnt Danish??).

When her father died she wasn't yet 10 years old, and her mother, who never loved any of her children, saw her way to get rid of her much hated daughter Elizabeth. So the small Countess was sent to Cachtice, waiting for Count Francis Nadasdy to arrive. I think the mistreatments Anna did to her children had a great influence on them. Elizabeth was the sadistic murderer we all know about, but her older brother, Stephen would commit suicide in 1605, after years of madness and an eccentric behaviour, as he refused to make love with his wife, alleging she was so beautiful she was a Goddess and, because of that, she couldn't be profaned. Her sister Sophia would become mad in 1606 and was ''imprisoned'' in her own rooms until she died two years later. Their younger sister, Clara, was the only one who always lead a normal life and, in 1611, when the trials against Elizabeth were held, Clara forbid her sister's name to be pronounced at her home.
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2005, 01:01:57 PM »
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Re: Balkan Nobility & Aristocracy
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2005, 04:47:10 PM »
Thanks for the help, guys!