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Offline Dimitri

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What does everyone think about Dimitri?
He is one of my favourite members of the Romanvs aftyer NAOTMAA.
Do you think it was right that he betrayed the Imperial family, and did what he thought was best for mother Russia, by killing the horrid Rasputin?
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2004, 12:27:37 PM »
Dimitry to me is one of the MOST interesting characters.  I wish someone would do a really good book on him.  He seemed to me to feel so totally alone for all of his life and even died alone in Switzerland.
He never squealed on the Rasputin murder, which I certainly ADMIRE.  But some books even have HIM as the shooter of Rasputin as he was escaping.  I wish we knew for sure.  In the Michael and Natasha book it seems like he was in love with her also and saw her again in England after the revolution, but she wasn't interested.  Then it seemed he was at very loose ends and living with Coco Chanel, ending up marrying an American, but nothing gives you the impression he loved her or was happy.  Why did he end up ALONE in Switzerland.....somebody who knows something please jump in here.....Arleen  

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2004, 02:14:08 PM »
Arleen,

i'm so pleased that someone else also likes Dimitri. I to really admire the way Dimitri never split the beans on the rasputin murder, while prince felix Yusupoff told everyhthing in his book.

It seems that Dimitri really liked the playboy life, as during his exile he spent beyond his means ans always booked the finest suites in hotels such as the Ritz.
it didn't take him long to squander all his remaining money.

it was really sad that he ended up dying alone away from his family and homeland.

Don't you think it was really awful that after he died his ex-wife sold some of his belongings for $8000?
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2004, 03:33:22 PM »
I remember reading somewhere that Demitri Pavlovich was in love with one of the girls.....does anyone know about this??

I can imagine that he was torn his life thru because he betrayed the family in the Rsputin killing...(even if he believed what he did was right)..he seemed to be very sensitive.  After all he lived there in AP with them for several years and Nicholas treated him like a son.  

Did he die in poverty??  

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 03:51:29 PM »
I believe there was some discussion that he would marry Olga.  Not sure who started this discussion, perhaps it was Alexandra.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 05:32:52 PM »
What's up with Dmitri and his sister's relationship? I've read that she had some feelings for her brother that weren't appropriate. Can anyone elaborate?


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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2004, 07:01:57 PM »
Whoops! Here we go again!!!     :P      ::)     ;)

Check out the bios for Dmitri and Marie on this website. Both are exceptionally well done.

Also Greg King's book about Prince Felix has some interesting material re: Dmitri.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2004, 12:47:31 AM »
Thank you for the compliment.

Regarding the poster who talked of DP's marriage - there was a significant age and cultural differences between Audrey and Dmitri. Nonetheless, they were married for over 10 years and had a child together. It's very difficult to know from the outside looking in whether or not they were happy and what their feelings for one another were. However, given the many losses DP endured (all his male authority figures murdered + his only brother), he was probably as "happy" with Audrey Emery as he was capable of being.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2004, 02:36:12 PM »
So sad to hear that DP died alone. Did he remain in the America? Where is he buried and when did he die.  Does anyone know?
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2004, 02:43:21 PM »
Dmitri did not remain in America. He sent his son Paul, Prince Ilyinsky, to America to complete his education and to ensure his son's safety during the war (WWII). DP remained based in Paris, and went to Davos, a popular Swiss resort, where he was treated for tuberculosis. He died there in the early 1940's.

Dmitri is buried along with his sister, Marie Pavlovna, at the later's son's property on the Island of Mainau. Lennert, Count Bernadotte, is still alive and living there. The property was a gift from his Swedish grandmother.

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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2004, 03:12:22 PM »
What were Dmitri's true feelings toward GD Michael's wife Natasha? It seems he was quite taken with her.

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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2004, 12:19:15 AM »
I haven't read his papers, so my answer is speculative. It appears that DP was quite "taken" with his cousin Misha's wife. There are photos of him at their home, and still more photos of them meeting in exile in England. My guess is that this relationship never went beyond the flirtation phase. I base this on the fact that both were "available" when they met in exile, yet there was apparently no progession. Natasha was probably not interested in anyone else, and DP went on to an affair with Chanel and marriage to Miss Emery.

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2004, 04:34:06 AM »
In Michael and Natasha, there is reference of N  writing to GD Michael mentioning GD DP calling him "Lilies of the Valley's", much to Michael's chagrin.
GD Irina chose between Felix Y and GD DP, ("close" friends that they were.)
Alexandra F had a great fondness for him but I see this more as a vicarious pleasure of a mother of an invalid able to enjoy having a  healthy boy around the palace, active, well and able bodied.
Perhaps DP marrying GDss ON may have been the last chance saloon for the Dynasty, two young new fresh people, both hugely russophile, sensitive to others situations (re ON nurses duties ind the eddifying effects they had on her) could if put into position have satisfied the lust for change above all costs. Who can ever know.
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2004, 12:06:56 PM »
There's a good bit of DP in Flight of the Romanovs. Someone well-known (I can't remember right now) commented on him sitting alone in a corner at a casino in Monte Carlo, watching the blackjack players but unable to afford to join in. He was romantically involved for quite awhile in the early '20s with Coco Chanel, with rumors even circulating of an engagement, but he decided he was ready to go the "morganatic" route, I guess while hopes of a restoration were still afloat. Of course, he later did go just this route. Coco was apparently pretty bitter since she wrote of the Grand Dukes in Paris (with apparent direct reference to DP) that they possessed good looks, green eyes, broad shoulders, but there was nothing there but hollowness and vodka. MP wrote that he was born basically a golden child, possessed of all gifts of charm and looks but basically squandered them, floating along in life. She also wrote of others envy of him as he was an acknowledged favorite of the Tsar when so many other GDs were outside the circle. FOTR also notes the final break with FY with Dimitri writing him a letter following FY's book & lawsuit against MGM blasting him for exploiting Rasputin's murder when DP assumed they would never mention it and FY was exploiting it for money he really didn't need. He concluded by saying FY owed his life to DP's family connection & royal status but also acknowledging that his exile had saved his life. He now considered their relationship irretrievably broken.
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Re: Grand Duke Dmitriy Pavlovitch, his wife Audrey Emery, and descendants
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2004, 02:02:57 PM »
Does anyone have any pictures of Dimitri Pavlovich?  and yes i admire him very much for the family duty he had by trying to protect the royal family from the havoc Rasputin was doing.  He was brave to take the punishment he was given to exile in Persia.  He not once betrayed his pact in not saying what happened that night of the murder unlike Felix.  

If anyone has any pictures please.
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