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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2004, 11:18:53 PM »
A photograph of Golinewski or whatever his name was can be found in Massie's The Romanovs: The Final Chapter.  Fellow looks almost identical to my uncle Jim. ;)

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #76 on: December 08, 2004, 02:06:21 PM »
I just wanted everyone to know, that I haven't forgotten the request made. It's just taking me some time to type it all in between jobs.

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #77 on: December 09, 2004, 01:11:52 PM »
Just an idea for those interested in the Life article.  If you give Time Inc. a call (212-522-1212) they may be able to send you a copy of the article.  I'm not sure if it's still around (when I left, there was talk of shutting it down), but Time Inc. has a library filled with a copy of every issue of every magazine they ever published in the US.  Also try the photo archives.  Although they only keep copies of photos and films (I actually got to see an orginal copy of the Zupruder film, and original color slides of Hitler taken by his private photographer) they may be able to connect you with someone who can provide a copy of the article.  You will need to know the exact issue the article appeared in though.

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2004, 08:14:54 PM »
Natalia Petrovna Pelikhodze seems to be an interesting character in Russian Society. Since 2001 the year that I started 8th grade I've always been interested in the Romanovs, especially Anastasia! I soon started to write a Children's book on her making it seem like she was the narrator of her own lifestory. I' am not finished because I need a conclusion. I really believe Anastasia survived because her bones are missing from her family's. She was only 5"2" when she was 17 in 1918 the other bones of her sisters are much larger and longer than hers. In summer of 2002 when I was surfing the net I came across an article On Dr. Vladelen Sirotkin proving that Anastasia was an old woman by the name of Natalia Petrovna Pelikhodze. He claims they took DNA tests and handwriting samples in Germany and Japan. And that Anastasia was rescued by her godfather by the name of Verkhovsky who was then serving in the dreaded Checka also known as secret police and forerunner of the KGB. He secretively took Anastasia out of the Ipatiev House and together found a hiding place to live.  On June 12, 2002 the old woman proven to be the Czarina’s youngest daughter held a press conference in Moscow, at which she had said to be the lost Grand Duchess and daughter of the last Czar of Russia and survived the shooting of her family. According to Pelikhodze, Anastasia had not been shot and has been living in Georgia under the name of Natalia Pelikhodze.  Only in 1995, the old woman thought about returning to her true title. Now as a Russian citizen, Grand Duchess Anastasia returned to Russia for great inheritance of her family.  But from what experts of this story told me the woman never showed up in Moscow  and that the Press conference was suppose to be in September of 2002. That story has been for gone for about two summers and no one has ever heard from Vladelen Sirotkin. Can Someone tell me where I could reach Dr. Vladelen Sirotkin so I could get to the bottom of this? That would really be of great help::)

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #79 on: December 14, 2004, 08:46:45 PM »
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Natalia Petrovna Pelikhodze seems to be an interesting character in Russian Society.


Her surname sounds Georgian.

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I really believe Anastasia survived because her bones are missing from her family's.


A definitive argument!

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He claims they took DNA tests and handwriting samples in Germany and Japan.


May we see them? Whose DNA was Pelikhodze's tested aganst?

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......rescued by her godfather by the name of Verkhovsky


Anastasia Nikolaevna did not have a godfather by the name of Verkhovsky.

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He secretively took Anastasia out of the Ipatiev House and together found a hiding place to live.


How? When? Where?

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But from what experts of this story told me the woman never showed up in Moscow  and that the Press conference was suppose to be in September of 2002.


Funny that.

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2004, 09:22:25 PM »
I've read this woman's name was Belikhodze.  I've seen some websites in Russian about her, she was supposed to go to Moscow and get all this tsarist gold in 2002.  Riiiiight. ;)
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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2004, 02:43:26 PM »
Hi! Excuse my manners from yesterday I became a new member since them! My name is Brittany I'am QueenEna1887!!! This is only something I read! I don't have the proof this is something I read while searching the net! I hope it is true!!

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2004, 05:35:24 PM »
Welcome QueenEna! :) If you want to read more on claimants, we have a forum called "A Question of Survivors" you might want to check out!

I like Ena too, do you have any pics of her and King Alfonso?

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2004, 03:08:37 PM »
Thank You Annie and yes I do have photos of Queen Ena and her husband Alfonso and with her children. But the only problem is I do not know how the other members post their pictures

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2004, 07:43:34 PM »
If you go to http://www.photobucket.com and start an account, you can upload your pics there. Then under the thumbnails (little versions of your pics in the album) there will be a url starting with img. Copy that and paste it here and it will post!

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #85 on: February 13, 2005, 06:27:34 PM »
Found this on the Telegraph website  :)

The last 'real' Anastasia is showing her age at 101
By Marcus Warren in Moscow


The latest - and almost certainly the last - woman to declare that she is Anastasia, the murdered Tsar's youngest daughter, has surfaced in the former Soviet Union, apparently the heiress to a fabulous fortune and aged nearly 101.
Apparently, the Grand Duchess was not shot dead by the Bolsheviks in 1918 but is now living in Georgia where she is known as Natalya Bilikhodze, a committee formed to prepare her homecoming has announced in Moscow.
Supporters said that Mrs Bilikhodze, whose whereabouts are a secret, will visit Russia in September when her real identity will be acknowledged and billions of pounds belonging to the Romanovs will then be handed over to her.
Committee's chairman, Yuri Dergausov, told a press conference:"Let us restore the honourable name of Anastasia as soon as possible and bring the funds back to Mother Russia."
The claims place Mrs Bilikhodze in a glorious line of dozens who have claimed to be Nicholas and Alexandra's fourth child.
Her famous predecessors include a Swede [sic], Anna Anderson, "discovered" in a Berlin psychiatric hospital, and an American woman called Eugenia Smith.
The Anastasia legend has inspired books, a cartoon film, a ballet and numerous hoaxes.
An exhaustive post mortem examination of remains found in the forests outside Yekaterinburg confirmed that they belonged to the Romanovs.
They were buried in a vault in St Petersburg four years ago. Russian experts yesterday reacted with weary scepticism to the news that the "real" Anastasia had turned up at last.
Eduard Radzinsky, a historian, said: "Whenever I finish a lecture in the West, there is always some pathetic man or woman hanging around at the end claiming to have heard of, know, or actually be a Romanov. It's sad really."
Vladimir Solovyev, the prosecutor who investigated the Yekaterinburg bones, said: "If someone is trying to present themselves as Anastasia, they will have to do it through the courts and that is practically impossible."
The Orthodox Church has never acknowledged the bones as those of the last Tsar and his family but it canonised the Romanovs two years ago.
It made them saints on the assumption that they were murdered, a spokesman said.

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #86 on: February 13, 2005, 06:46:30 PM »
so are u saying that it is possible that the woman who lives in the US is Anastasia. if so, does she have the scar and her neck from that mole, or any other scars or marks on her body that match the marks on Anastasia's body?
wasn't Anastasia's body i mean, bones found?
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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #87 on: February 13, 2005, 07:16:56 PM »
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so are u saying that it is possible that the woman who lives in the US is anastasia. if so, does she have the scar and her neck from that mole, or any other scars or marks on her body that match the marks on anastasia's body?
wasn't anastasia's body i mean, bones found?


The woman in the US was Anna Anderson.  Although she had surface similarities, like the scar on the neck, her DNA did not match Alexandra or the G3 Grand Duchesses in the Pig's meadow grave.  

Anastasia's remains, like Alexei's, have not been found at this time.

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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #88 on: February 13, 2005, 08:21:25 PM »
No not true! DNA tests proved that the bones found were of the four staff people, Nicholas, Alexandra, Olga, Tatiana and Anastasia!

Maria and Alexei are the ones missing, and it is known that they are dead! Lots of the witnesses said that EVERYONE was dead!

So ALL those pretenders and JUST PRETENDERS! I dont believe any of them! But I know not everyone agrees with that!
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Re: Claimant of Grand Duchess Anastasia Nikolaevna
« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2005, 08:37:00 PM »
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No not true! DNA tests proved that the bones found were of the four staff people, Nicholas, Alexandra, Olga, Tatiana and Anastasia!


No, Vera.  According to the tests, the bodies found were Nicholas, Alexandra and 3 grand duchesses.  Although the Russians identified the missing grand duchess as Maria, the Americans saw that the sacrum (lower spine, the tail bone) on the skeleton identified as Anastasia was too mature (the bones had fused together) to be a 17 yr old girl.  That usually happens after age 18, which would make the skeleton Marie.



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Maria and Alexei are the ones missing, and it is known that they are dead! Lots of the witnesses said that EVERYONE was dead!


Yes, but two grand duchesses were still making noise as the bodies were carried out.  The Bolsheviks claim to have shot them in the head.  One, Marie, was heard choking on her own blood.  So yes, witnesses, the Bolsheviks, claimed everyone was dead.  If they lost two bodies, of course they would say that.

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So ALL those pretenders and JUST PRETENDERS! I don't believe any of them! But I know not everyone agrees with that!

That is right.  NONE of the pretenders to date have proven to be Romanovs.  Many have had their DNA tested, and it has come out false.  You must remember that it was rumored after the Romanovs were killed that there were huge amounts of money in foreign banks.  A lot of people wanted a piece of that, so they became "Romanovs."

There are some people who believe that some claimants are real.  That is their choice.  Learning about the Romanovs is a journey, and not everyone chooses to walk the same path....

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