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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #150 on: October 03, 2008, 01:10:09 PM »
Yes. Isabel II could hardly be blamed for the sins of her father and her mother's.  ;)

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #151 on: October 04, 2008, 02:35:08 AM »
What is the matter? Sins are not in question here but a very heavy heredity. I don't judge. I ascertain facts.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #152 on: October 04, 2008, 10:01:20 AM »
Hi,

Just think if these people were all strait-laced and boring, we would have nothing to talk about on these various message boards.
The very fact that Henry VIII had six wives, who were all dispatched in numerable ways, makes him famous and the subject of "that mini-series"...  Nobody is much concerned with the historical mistakes and jumblings, but his romping in the boudoir(s) and those of the Duke of Sussex are what has 'most' everybody tuned in!!!

A mini-series on Isabella II could prove interesting - and not for her political input into Spain.....

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #153 on: October 04, 2008, 01:11:23 PM »
You are absoluty right. The couple formed by Isabel II and Francisco de Assis is the most surprising of the nineteenth century. I think there is something shakespearian in their life. Their story sounds like that. A tragedy...

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #154 on: October 04, 2008, 04:10:47 PM »
Yes...They should do the Bourbons after the Tudors.... ;D

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #155 on: October 07, 2008, 01:17:47 PM »
I would like to know if Queen Isabel had good relations with her half-brothers & sisters : Amparo, Milagros, Fernando, Cristina, Juan & Jose
Queen Cristina married an officer of the guard Agustin Munoz y Sanchez & had several children with him, somehow like her elder sister Carolina (Duchess of Berry),

Did the young queen herself decide to gave them titles?
who chose the husbands of her sisters Amparo, Milagros & Cristina
What were her plans for her younger brothers?

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #156 on: October 07, 2008, 02:40:35 PM »
I think Dowager Queen Maria Cristina (from Naples) of Spain would have made the decisions for her "other children".

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #157 on: October 07, 2008, 02:58:34 PM »
Isabel had a distant although affectionate relationship with her half-siblings. She was the one to give them their titles and, for some time, she even investigated if there would be any possibility to name them "Infantes of Spain"!! Her government, of course, wouldn't hear about it.
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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #158 on: October 07, 2008, 02:59:04 PM »
She investigated it on her mother and stepfather's behalf.
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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #159 on: October 07, 2008, 03:05:32 PM »
But it would the mother who made the final decision. Just like she made Isabel II 's and her sister's marriage.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #160 on: October 08, 2008, 03:50:51 AM »
I think it was European politics that made the marriages. Nobody wanted a French Prince as a king-consort or another Saxe-Coburg

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #161 on: October 08, 2008, 06:36:19 AM »
thanks everybody !
Are there pictures of the Queen with her siblings? Or even her siblings one by one? Which one of them looks like her the most?
What were the queen dowager's plans for her sons?
I read that some ecuatorians wanted to place the duque de Tarancon  on their country throne? is it true? What about the condes de Recuerdo & Gracia ?
Had queen dowager good relations with her brothers & sisters like Duchess of Berry, King of Dos Sicilias, Empress of Brasil ?

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #162 on: October 08, 2008, 06:40:53 AM »
thanks everybody
Are there pictures showing Queen Isabel or King Francisco with their grandchildren?
maybe for wedding ...Did they took part to these events ?
I read that the King owned the château d'Epinay in France & the palacio of Rofrio in Spain, was this last one for his holidays?

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #163 on: October 08, 2008, 12:36:19 PM »
To answer all those questions one would need a book about Queen Maria Cristina (Princess of Naples). I suspect that could led directly to her thread. As for Isabel II, her life is so turbulent that nobody cared about her half siblings or her reaction to them.

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Re: Queen Isabel (Isabella) II of Spain and her family
« Reply #164 on: October 08, 2008, 01:50:43 PM »
 Yes you're right, it was too much in one question sorry !
the daughter had a crazy life like her mother !