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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2005, 10:48:13 PM »


They also serve who only stand and wait--John Milton
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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2005, 08:25:06 AM »
Ena was only the first royal to put on a tight fitting bathing suit. That act scandalized her mother-in-law's ladies, who seemed to have been selected from convents... ;D

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2005, 04:22:55 AM »
Just after the first meeting between Alfonso and Ena, when Alfonso just returned to Spain, the spanish news-paper ABC, published, the 14 of June, a beautiful portrait of Ena, wich enchanted spanish people.

In August, the same news-paper, called all the readers to make a referendum about their preferences about the future Queen of Spain. "Who would be the future Queen of Spain?", they published eight pictures.

In the front line....Olga of Cumberland, niece of the Queen of England; Victoria of Prussia, daughter of the Kaiser; Wiltrude of Baviera and Patricia of Connaught. In the lower line...Victoria of Mecklenburg, Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg, Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, and Louise of Orleans.

In September, they published the results.....

Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg...........18.427 votes
Patricia of Connaught.........................13.719
Victoria Louise of Prussia....................12.901
Louise of Orleans................................10.675
Victoria of Mecklenburg.........................7.040
Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg.......................4.093
Olga of Cumberland..............................2.112
Wiltrude of Baviera................................1.488

Both.., Alfonso and Ena were very happy with this results.

Is curious, but four of those candidates, would finally have a direct conexion with the Spanish Royal Family....,

Victoria Eugenia as Queen;
Victoria Louise of Prussia, would be the grand mother of our actual Queen, Sofía of Greece
Louise of Orleans would be the mother of our actual King´s mother, Maria de las Mercedes of Orleans.
Beatrice of Saxe Coburg, would marry the Infante Alfonso of Orleans.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2005, 10:26:07 AM »
Yes...They love Ena from the start. If only there has been no bomb, that psycologically seperate the young queen from the people.  :'(

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2005, 07:22:16 PM »
I don't know how long the honeymoon would've lasted. Ena excited them by her looks--so different from the Spanish--but her personality underwhelmed them when she arrived. The bombing was just the first time they would notice the difference. She was brought up to be sedate and stiff-upper-lip and conducted herself as such after the attack. According to Gerard Noel, the Spanish people, so passionate and emotional, couldn't understand her 'cold' response. This impression would be reinforced over and over. Ena in her early years as Queen was shy and rather stiff in public and rather overwhelmed by her position and her problems with her marriage and her children. She was also isolated in the Court and didn't have much outlet to express herself. As she grew older and more confident her popularity grew but it was pretty much  towards the end of Alfonso's reign. She really wasn't much appreciated in her time.
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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #95 on: December 13, 2005, 03:06:23 AM »
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In September, they published the results.....

Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg...........18.427 votes
Patricia of Connaught.........................13.719
Victoria Louise of Prussia....................12.901
Louise of Orleans................................10.675
Victoria of Mecklenburg.........................7.040
Beatrice of Saxe-Coburg.......................4.093
Olga of Cumberland..............................2.112
Wiltrude of Baviera................................1.488

Both.., Alfonso and Ena were very happy with this results.




Victoria of Mecklenbourg?? I think it is Maria Antonia of Mecklenbourg-Schwerin, we discussed her in some thread.
Pity that Olga of Cumberland is almost the last in the list! :( She was very pretty girl.
As for Wiltrud of Bavaria...ahhm... ;) she was not that type of beauty to strike Spanish people...actually she was not a beauty at all  :-X.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #96 on: December 13, 2005, 03:47:53 AM »
Interestingly Baby Bee, who was also on the list, ended up in Spain as well... I don't think you know the true story of Bee & Ena yet... but in time you will.
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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2005, 02:34:59 AM »
Dear Eric, i am curious about their true story......, what true story?, do you know more details about their relation ship?. Please, tell us, more.
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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #98 on: December 15, 2005, 04:42:29 AM »
About Ena and Bee, there are a lot of storys, sure that not all of them are true, but the legend of their crisis exists.

That crisis begun in 1916, the 27 september, prince Alexander of Battenberg, Enaīs brother, wrote a letter to the King Alfonso, ....this letter exists, and remainds in the Palaceīs archive.

In that letter, Alexander wrote to Alfonso that he knew very well, that Bee was speaking very badly about Ena, and how Bee spoked ill about his sister, also that Bee was in excelents terms with him (Alfonso XIII).

Some writers had interpreted this as a romance between Bee and Alfonso XIII, but they are not proofs about it, and it seems not posible knowing the love Between Bee and Ali.

But the fact is that the crisis was so big that the Queen Mother spoke with Bee and asked her to leave Spain, Bee was not agree, and the King had to arrange the matter, he obliged her to leave Spain with Ali. To hide this he gived to Ali , a military post in Switzwerland.

There exists an other version. Missy said that the origin of the crisis was the pursit towards Bee by Alfonso XIII.
Ali was witness of this, and so they left Spain.

It is posible too.

Knowing the characthere of Alfonso XIII, in my opinion, the second version is more believable.

But the truth is that Bee didnīt speak very kindly about her cousin, apparently ........and in my opinion i still beliving that she was jalous of her position, i donīt see an other reason.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #99 on: December 15, 2005, 06:41:53 AM »
First of all I do not believe that Bee had an affair with Alfonso XIII. Thanks to him, she and Ali was exiled for a number of years after her marriage to Ali. In fact I tend to think that they did not get along well (although she respect him as King).

Yes there could be an element of truth that Alfonso XIII fell for Bee, after seeing her giving birth to 3 healthy sons, while his and Ena's were sickly. It would have been easy for him to regret "I should have chosen her instead." However I do not believe Bee was interested.

Also just before the Royal family were exiled. The two eldest sons of Bee were briefly engaged to Ena's daughters, Infantas Cristina & Beatriz. Would Ena agree to such an angagement if she so many reasons to hate Bee ?

Another thing was when the Spanish government fell and the Royal family was exiled. Ena tried to phone Bee to say goodbye but cannot get through, while Bee asked Ali to guard King Alfonso, even they had a exe to grind with him. To Bee, he was the king, and at this critical moment, you must show your loyalty. Bee herself also guarded Infanta Isabel, and accompany the old woman to safety in France. I had a great respect for her in this.  ::)

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2005, 07:22:24 AM »
Eric,

About your points, i am agree i some of them.

First, i have never thought that Bee hated Ena, i donīt think so, but yes, that she was not as kind with her, that Enaīs was. The truth is that she spoked not very well about Ena.

About Alfonso XIII, i belive as you, that the rumours of a romance with Bee, were not true. I donīt really belive it. I can belive that Alfonso XIII was interested in her, not for her 3 healthy sons, but because she was a beautiful lady and Alfonso XIII was not a loyal husband (at all).

Ena loved Bee, so i don īt see why she wouldnīt bee agree with the engagement of her daughters with Beeīs sons. Ena didnīt hate Bee.

And about the exile, i am agree again with you, Bee showed her loyalty to the Royal Family, in fact i belive that Ena deposited her some of her jewels, and Bee was the person to transport them to France.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2005, 10:07:48 AM »
I think with the friendship between Bee & Ena must have its ups and downs. But the friendship formed since girlhood was too strong to break.

Another link was the the fact that they are the only "English" women at the court of Spain.  It would be natural the one Ena phone in to complain about the Spanish court would be her cousin, Bee, who understood her "English" point of view only too well.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2005, 01:29:17 PM »
Agree with this.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #103 on: December 15, 2005, 07:52:20 PM »
I think Ena felt a bit responsible for Bee's unhappiness, as since the reason for forbidding Ali and Bee's marriage was that the Spanish government cannot stomach TWO protestant princesses marring into Spain in such a short period of time. Marie Coburg thought it was bull and decided not to wait and marry her daughter. As a result Bee & Ali were exiled.

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Re: Victoria Eugenia of Battenberg, Queen of Spain
« Reply #104 on: December 16, 2005, 04:00:34 AM »
When Bee and Ali felt in love, the Queen Mother of Spain (Maria Cristina) and the King, were happy and agree with the posible marriage, admitting nevertheless that her religion was a problem, because Bee didnīt want to change her religion. The Queen Mother, in person, told her in San Sebastian, that she would marry Ali if she adquired the commitment to educate their posible children in the catholic faiht.

Also, Alfonso XIII manifested verbally to his cousin his agreement to marry Bee.

In february 1909, Portugueseīs press, published that Bee would marry the young king of Portugal , Manuel II, in a future, but the princess was already engaged personaly with Ali. In July 1909, in Coburg, they married, it was a mixed married state, valid for the Catholic Church with the obligation of educate their children as catholics.

But in Spain, the governement, Antonio Maura, had denied the official permission, in spite of the verbal agreement of the King.

The fact is that Ali was deprived of his title of Infante of Spain and separated of his military carreer.

A very unjust decision.....Aliīs parents didnīt affront the King, only Grand Duchess Maria, Beeīs mother, defended the young couple with very hard telegrams sended to the Queen Mother and the King.

I supose that Ena was not agree with all this.