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Offline Sarai

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Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« on: March 15, 2005, 07:23:57 PM »
I am glad this topic about Iberian royalty & nobility has been started. I have a personal interest in this. My family is of Spanish ancestry. My maiden name is Feria, from my father's side. On my mother's side they are Quinoñes. Neither of these are very common Spanish surnames and I have always heard that they belonged to the Spanish nobility in the Middle Ages. Any further information by the royalty experts on this board would be appreciated! Here is what I know so far.

With regards to Feria, my research has shown that this surname can be traced back to at least the time of King Fernando I of Spain, who lived in the 11th century. One of this king's generals carried the Feria surname, and this is the earliest thusfar that I know of a reference to the Feria family. After the feudal period, the Feria family branched out from Spain to different regions of the world, including to Cuba, which is where my own family is from. The first Feria arrived in Cuba on the second voyage of Christopher Columbus with the rank of "alferez de corbeta." An "alferez" is the one in charge of the battle banner and the leader of the charge against enemy troops; a "corbeta" is a "corvette" in English - this is a ship smaller than a frigate but comparable to one in all other aspects. His name was Don Sebastian de Feria y Ortuño and he was related to the House of Aragon as second cousin of Fernando (Ferdinand), King of Spain. He established himself in Cuba in the village of Puerto Principe, which is now the city of Camaguey, where he married the daughter of the well-off Don Servando Bobadilla y Gomez. The marriage produced three children, a girl of which nothing is known (it is presumed that she died in childhood) and two boys - Fernando de Feria y Bobadilla and his brother Enrique. The main family lineage is that of Fernando's, who established himself in commerce and formed an extensive family that spread to the oriental (Eastern) part of Cuba, where current Ferias have our roots. The "de" prefix was lost in time, transforming the surname from "de Feria" to simply "Feria."

With regards to the Quiñones surname, I have read and been told that it has belonged to illustrious families in Spain for centuries. All I know is from research with regards to the origin of my own branch of the family located in the eastern part of Cuba, known in Spanish as "Oriente." Please note that the research is incomplete and more remains to be found, as this only covers the early history of the surname in Cuba and covers the colonial period only (1492 - 1600's (?)). Don Servando Quiñones, third generation descendant of the Spanish nobility, was the first to go to Cuba a few years after 1492 in an expedition looking for spice trade routes and precious stones. After that voyage he returned to Spain and five years later returned to Cuba, going through the eastern and central part of the island, but he first settled in the village of San Cristobal of Havana and in subsequent business trips around the island he met his wife, Maria de Figueredo y Altunaga, in the eastern part of Cuba, where he established his main business ventures in the industries of sugar and agriculture. They had two children, Eufrasio Quiñones de Figueredo and Leonor Quiñones de Figueredo, the latter of which died of smallpox before reaching adulthood. The main Quiñones line in the eastern part of Cuba thus descended from Eufrasio. During the entire colonial era those with the surname of Quiñones carried the noble title of viscount. I have also read that there are medieval castles in Spain (area of Leon and Asturias) that belonged to the Quinones family.
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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 07:53:29 PM »
Hola Sarai,

Bienvenida...how interesting to read about your ancestors...this forum could be used for these issues as well...don't you think?

I am honored that the powers that be at the APA have entrusted me with this Iberain section...now let's all have fun!

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2005, 07:14:13 AM »
Art,
Congrats on becoming a moderator - I know you'll do a great job! Since there are already topics on researching Russian roots and on Russian noble families on the forum, I didn't think it would hurt to do the same with Spanish roots and nobility in this section. So here we go :)

By the way, now that I have shared my Spanish family history, this thread can be used for others to do the same. It is not just a thread to research my own particular ancestors. If anyone here has Spanish ancestry, noble or not, and would like to discuss it this can be done here.
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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2005, 12:46:28 PM »

hi like sarai i am very interested in the spanish royal family.  like her as well   i come from spanish ancestry.  my family names are Gonzalez and from my mother's name is Castillo.  i was told that the name Gonzalez are decendants of the royal family of Fernan Gonzalez.  also that we are decendants of the Navarre royal family as well.  

the Castillo family i was told are decendants of asristocrats.  can anyone please help me.  

thanks.

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2005, 05:38:57 PM »
Kostya,
It is interesting to read about the Spanish roots of others here as well. The only thing I can advise you is to look at the following website:
http://genforum.genealogy.com/surnames/

It has forums on many, many different family surnames, where people can learn and discuss their family name histories. There are forums for both Gonzalez and Castillo. I have learned many interesting things about my own family name history on those geneology forums, so hopefully you can as well.
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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2005, 08:31:51 AM »
I have no wish to diminish anyone's hopes to eb connected with Royalty liek I saw on Kostya's point but I'm sorry to say that surnames like Gonzaley, Lopez, Perez, Garcés, García, Fernàndez etc. have hardly any connection with royalty. The ending -ez means "son of" in ancient Spanish (you can compare it with the "son" in Williamson" for example. Many people took their father's name in the Middle Ages and added, as it should be done, the "ez". Several "-ez"'s became famous, like  Fernan Gonzalez, but there were many families with that surname (as they are today) which have no genealogical link ebtween them, only the surname which is, basically, a coincidence. Sorry to soudn disappointing, if you can prove the genealogical link then bwe-hey, great, but it will be hard with all the -ez families and lineages there are. I myself have Gonzalez and Hernandez in my blood but have not even considered being connected to royalty since there are so many in Spain! Sorry......

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2005, 09:52:12 AM »
Gaspar de Guzmán y Pimentel, Conde-Duque de Olivares
(Conde de Olivares y Duque de Sanlúcar la Mayor)
Born 6 Jan 1587
Died 22 Jul 1645
Prime Minister of Spain 1621-1643

What do you think about this forgotten man - the rival of Cardinal de Richlieu - who once led Spain for over 20 years?
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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2005, 06:24:31 PM »
Doesn't the Duchess of Alba have carry the title now?
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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2005, 11:19:37 AM »
Hi! Since there is no channel regarding the Iturbide family that reigned in Mexico for less than a year, I'd like to start a new thread, and I chose the Iberian channel since the emperor of Mexico (Agustin de Iturbide) was of Spanish extraction. I hope my post isn't unwelcome since they're not related to the Romanovs, nor any other royal family as far as I know, though they did marry Hungarian noble families.



Agustín de Iturbide (Yturbide according to some sources; this version was used by his descendants that emigrated to Europe and Australia, and was also adopted by a collateral branch that went to live in France) was born in 1783 and died (executed) in 1824. He was a national hero in Mexico for he contributed to the independence of the latter from Spain. In 1822 he proclaimed himself emperor of Mexico. He was deposed the following year, and he escaped to Europe (Italy and London). When he returned to Mexico he was arrested (he had agreed to leave the country and would be granted a pesion if there was no fighting). He was shot on 15 July 1824. His widow and most of his surviving children escaped to the US and some died there, in Philadelphia. A daughter became a nun; another son died in Mexico in 1856 and is the ancestor of the present senior member of the family.
Iturbide's family in the male line became extinct in the XIX century. His grandson, Agustín de Iturbide y Grin (Green) was adopted by Emperor Maximilian I (former archduke of Austria-Hungary), though he never took the surname "von Habsburg". He ultimately taught Spanish and French at Georgetown University.
One of Agustín I's descendants, María Josefa de Iturbide, died with her second husband in a concentration camp in november 1949 in Romania. Can anyone give me more information, photos of his family and tell me if through his descendants he's related to other royal or noble families?

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2005, 01:43:38 PM »
Hi Cimbrio

you can find many informations you want in this very good and interesting site:

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2006, 09:20:13 PM »
My dear friend Ricardo Mateos Saínz de Medrano has just published his fifth book in Spain.  This 700+ door stopper is dedicated to the history behind Spain's aristocracy!

I only wish more of you could read Spanish as Ricardo's books are phenomenal!

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 06:15:01 AM »
I've read his book on The Family of Doña Sofía; it's wonderful, practical and full of lovely photos. I should like to congratulate him personally; it's curious because he studied Translation and Interpreting, which is exactly what I'M studying. Many aristocratic families have blood ties with the Bourbons anyway, I'm sure this new book is practical. I'll let you know if I find it.

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2006, 01:40:09 PM »
About Aristocracy and not just the Spanish you should read thees two great books:
- THE EUROPEAN NOBILITY 1400-1800 by Jonathan Dewald Cambridge University Press.
-LES NOBLESSES EUROPEENNES DE LA FIN DU XV A' LA FIN DU XVIII SIECLE by Jean-Pierre Labatut Paris, Presses Universitaires de France.

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« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2007, 01:58:50 AM »
What is your opnion on Dona Maria del Carmen Martinez-Bordiu,the former Duchess of Cadiz,and her choices in life?What do Spaniards really think of the woman who might have been Queen Consort of Spain had her grandfather Generalissimo Franco established her former late husband the Duke of Cadiz on the throne?

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Re: Spanish nobility & aristocracy
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2007, 03:29:26 AM »
Thank God the dictator wasn't fool enough to do that. I mean, not for the late Duke, but for that ... lady.

Well, perhaps we would had have some laughing, now I think... Better to have missed the chance