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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2005, 03:35:40 PM »
Queen Sophia became Catholic after her marriage, during her honeymoon, and on a yacht off of Greek territory, so as not to offend the Greek Orthodox.
She considers it to have simply been a recognition of the Pope, not a conversion, as the only thing she had to learn was the Latin ritual/liturgy, since the basic Greek Orthodox/Roman Catholic tents are the same (with some differences) and her Greek Orthodox baptism is recognized by the Roman Catholic church.
They had two seperate marriage ceremonies to satisfy both the Catholics and the Orthodox.

I watched the Papal funeral today (even though I'm Orthodox, the pope remains one of our Patriarchs, and I believe in the need for greater Christian unity, and evenmoreso because of his international religious work and work towards Christian unity), and I wondered to myself what Sophia was thinking when she was listening to the Orthodox "Christ is Risen", the Easter chant, as her Greek-Catholic counterparts sang it after the Litany of the Saints.  

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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2005, 07:04:16 PM »
Thank you very much Iskenderbey!

Seeing her at the Pope's funeral this morning is what made me think of the question.  I also was wondering what she thought about the Orthodox priests participation.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2005, 07:07:46 PM »
If you mean the Eastern Rite bishops chanting- they are Catholics, just not Roman. There were several Orthodox  representatives however.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2005, 05:02:13 AM »
I thoght queen sofia converted straight after the othodox wedding at the cathlic one at st Denis.

queen Ena i think converted from the protistant faith to the cathlic at her wedding sofias mother did not convert untill 1946 8 years after her marrige but she later renounced both faiths.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2005, 02:06:48 PM »
Ena converted from the protistant faith to the cathlic before her wedding. She converted in San Sebastian on  march 7,  1906 and she got married on may (1906)

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2005, 11:57:20 AM »
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I thoght queen sofia converted straight after the othodox wedding at the cathlic one at st Denis.

queen Ena i think converted from the protistant faith to the cathlic at her wedding sofias mother did not convert untill 1946 8 years after her marrige but she later renounced both faiths.


No, at the time of her marriage, Sofia was still Greek Orthodox.  The Catholic ceremony was first, then the Orthodox ceremony.
Her entrance to the Roman Catholic church, occurred after the wedding, on their honeymood, off the shores of the Greek mainland.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2005, 09:36:36 AM »
The issue of religious conversion by Sophia caused quite a bit of a stir in Greece...how things have changed!

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2005, 04:50:46 PM »
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The issue of religious conversion by Sophia caused quite a bit of a stir in Greece...how things have changed!

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It is quite amusing, how the Orthodox clerics were so irked by Sophia marrying a Catholic, yet the populace was in love with her Juanito.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2005, 05:52:42 PM »
I was interested in Fredericka's comment that Queen Fredericka converted to the Greek Orthodox faith, then renounced it. Did she do this when she was studying in India? I believe that Princess Irene accompanied her mother to India. Did she go willingly, or did the Queen more or less make her go? Did Irene, too, renounce Orthodoxy?

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2005, 04:14:51 AM »
i dont no if Irene was forced to go with her mother or not. I think it was quite sad for Irene as like other princesses she ended up as her mothers companion always going with her on travles to India.
Although fredereika died quite young by that time Irene was old to have children and get married so i think she just carried on her mothers work. i think the two were close irene is very clever and an acumplished pianist so she has devoted her life to thoughs causes she did not go as far as her mother who renounced everything to do with royalty.

i no someone who has met Irene he told me she was really nice and very intresting to talk to so  she seems happy with her lot but you never no.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2005, 11:42:43 AM »
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I was interested in Fredericka's comment that Queen Fredericka converted to the Greek Orthodox faith, then renounced it. Did she do this when she was studying in India? I believe that Princess Irene accompanied her mother to India. Did she go willingly, or did the Queen more or less make her go? Did Irene, too, renounce Orthodoxy?


I disagree thorougly with the idea that Queen Frederika renounced Queen Orthodoxy.
I do not believe it, and I think the whole Indian guru issue has been overstated and mis-interpreted.
From what I understand, Queen Frederika was ever looking for more spirituality, but that doesn't mean she renounced her Greek Orthodox Faith.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2005, 07:36:08 PM »
Renowned Spanish royalty author Ricardo Mateos Sáinz de Medrano will be giving a lecture on Queen doña Sofía and her family -based on his book La Familia de la reina doña Sofía, which was published last year.

Ricardo's lecture is taking place on Sunday, October 16 at the VIIIth Annual Eurohistory Roaylty Conference, to be hedl in the San Francisco Bay Area, beginning early Saturday, October 15.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2005, 05:18:08 AM »
i just remebered on the 2nd it was 30 years since the death of Franco and the resiration of the Monachey

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2005, 03:24:48 PM »
I was eleven years old when Franco died, i remember very well that i was watching "The little house in the prairie", with my little sister, when suddenly the TV announced his death.

I remember that all my family was happy but a little anxious about the destiny of our country.

Happyly our new king succeeded to conduced us to the democracy without violence.

It´s incredible how Spain has changed since i was a little girl ¡

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2005, 09:45:10 AM »
But sadly, as with the 25th anniversary, King Juan Carlos is not planning any major event to celebrate his 30th anniversary on the throne.  Hopefully at least some medals or coins will be minted, somethign at least!

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