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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #315 on: May 26, 2012, 12:10:40 AM »
Juan Carlos had a rather awkward run-in with the Governor of Florida, Rick Scott:

"I still want to hear -- I've ridden elephants, I've never tried to shoot one," Scott says, with a grin and a handshake.

If Scott thought he was simply embarking on a conversation between two powerful men about shooting large animals for fun, he was wrong. As the Crowley Political Report points out, it's unlikely that King Juan Carlos had much interest in making this a centerpiece of their discussion.

In an unprecedented act of royal contrition, Spain's king apologized Wednesday for having gone elephant-hunting in Africa while everyday people endure a severe economic crisis.
 "I am very sorry. I made a mistake. It won't happen again," King Juan Carlos said, trying to placate a rare wave of outrage against him.

And while all of this could make for an awkward discussion about elephants, Scott forged ahead after his introduction, telling the king about his own trip to Botswana, where one of the massive pachyderms apparently chased his jeep."

Full article and video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/24/rick-scott-king-of-spain-elephant_n_1542066.html


This Governor is an embarrassment to the USA.  He and his wife sauntered into the King´s office with such nonchalance and idiotic grins.  Why are these people allowed out of the country?  If the people of Florida are foolish enough to vote for them let them keep them, not send them anywhere else!


Hear Hear Hear!!!Brainless bigots indeed Darius..and they can get here without a visa or digital permission to enter 48 hours in advance like us travelling there...the arrogance & hypocracy unwavered and unchanced...and incurable!!...They'll never learn.
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« Reply #316 on: May 26, 2012, 06:59:03 AM »
I do feel for the majority of Republics who never get it right when voting their politicians and Heads of State into office.  They must really envy us who have "undemocratic", unelected and hereditary Heads of State...

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« Reply #317 on: May 26, 2012, 10:45:11 AM »
I do feel for the majority of Republics who never get it right when voting their politicians and Heads of State into office.  They must really envy us who have "undemocratic", unelected and hereditary Heads of State...

Indeed!!And most important,they can never beat the experience and breed that comes with Royal Families...well,
in general that is,....apart from this Bourbon boy and his faul streaks.. ::)

About Reps never getting it right on voting,it's le peuple that's voting,they vote their own brand of crap...says a lot
on the brains,or lack of that,of these precious citizens...Hah!...ROTFL...Have a sigar!...Oh no,that's a no no now too.. ;D

Republics give extra costs as you have to give the creeps extra staff even after they're done away with
and loads of ballony of bubbles mistaken for importance...yeah,well,once upon a time..in Disneyland..

Anyway,we made a point Darius:We don't do Republics.C'est ca!Free impression after that runaway Czech kid,
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« Reply #318 on: May 26, 2012, 01:26:04 PM »
Hold on, boys. NO throne is so stable that it is not bolted down in iron. There is nothing superior in a monarchy over a republic [I happen to prefer monarchies that are long established] and not a few have been disasters.  Hence, the whole point of this Forum. Monarchies come and go just as easily as politicians do. Believe me, there is no "envy" on  our part.
 That jerk from Florida is just an example of  some low standards of the electorate.  Europe has it's  fair share of those as well.
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« Reply #319 on: May 26, 2012, 01:37:09 PM »
More on the Governor and the King:

"Enter Scott — who was visiting Spain this week on a trade mission. Not only did the governor start with the I've-never-shot-an-elephant ice-breaker, Scott then continued to talk about elephants and Botswana after he introduced his wife, Ann, to the king.

"We were in Botswana," Scott says. "And we were in the Jeep. And an elephant started to chase the Jeep. My wife was in the back part of the Jeep and she wanted to get out to the front of the Jeep." "I needed you in the Jeep with me," Ann leans in to say to the king. Juan Carlos laughed nervously at the elephant in the room and . . . Cut! The video stops.

But the laughter began. Newspapers nationwide and late-night Spanish television made Scott's elephant story a topic of uproarious laughter.

"All the news outlets highlight the absolute lack of tact of the Florida governor, which can only be attributed to poor preparation for the meeting," TV personality Sandra Sabatés says on the satirical news show El Intermedio (Halftime). "Gov. Scott continues, obstinate in his error. He adds insult to injury and asks the king increasingly uncomfortable questions about the details of the hunt."

At one point, Scott suggests that the king needs a better story to tell than that he injured his hip getting out of bed while on the trip...Returning to Florida on Thursday afternoon, Scott was met by a gaggle of media at Miami International Airport.

"If I did anything . . . wrong I completely apologize," he said. "The king's a wonderful person. He's a wonderful world leader. He's done so many wonderful things in his life. And we had a great conversation. "The first thing I asked him about was his hip, of course, because he had been injured," Scott said. Scott said he talked more about jobs than elephants with the king — not that anyone much wrote about that.

This wasn't the first time that the Spanish king has had an awkward moment with a Florida governor. Scott's predecessor, Charlie Crist, feted Juan Carlos at a royal dinner as part of a food-and-wine fest at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables. But Crist isn't a big eater. And he's not known for long talks about foreign policy. So Crist and his wife, Carole, left before dinner was over and left Juan Carlos and Queen Sofía sitting next to empty seats — a protocol no-no. Maybe protocol is just not a Florida forte.

When King Juan Carlos arrived at Miami International Airport several years ago, neither the mayors of Miami-Dade County or the city of Miami were available to greet him, as is customary. About an hour before Juan Carlos' arrival, county officials hastily called then-County Commissioner Carlos Gimenez, who rushed to get dressed up and make it to the tarmac in time for him and then-City Commissioner Tomás Regalado to shake the king's hand. "When he got off the plane, he referred to me as mayor," Gimenez said, recalling the story. "I had to kind of say, I'm not the alcalde, I'm a commissioner.""
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #320 on: May 28, 2012, 06:05:48 AM »
They really look finished, in more ways than one. She looks a nervous wreck, and the King does not look like something the Spanish should be proud of. I feel sorry for her ! She has never done anything wrong to deserve this. I am not surprised she spends so much time away from home ! So would I. 

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« Reply #321 on: May 28, 2012, 12:12:02 PM »
I am not sure of the constitutional position of the monarchy in Spain. Would it relatively easy to abolish it  ?
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« Reply #322 on: May 28, 2012, 01:11:31 PM »
The King is Head of State and of Armed Forces, much like the UK model.  However, as with everything else it could be quite easily abolished if there was parliamentary will to call a referendum.

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« Reply #323 on: May 28, 2012, 01:19:09 PM »
So, it would take a referendum instead of a simple act of Parliament ?
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« Reply #324 on: May 29, 2012, 03:02:34 PM »
As the institution is enshrined in the Constitution it would seem that a referendum would be necessary and I honestly could not say that I am convinced the result would be in the Monarchys favour...  I think it is sad but may be a good idea for HM to hand over the reins to the Prince of Asturias to attempt to win back some favour with the public.

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« Reply #325 on: July 03, 2012, 12:51:36 AM »

Madrid yesterday,la Roja at Palacio Zarzuela :

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=02-07-2012%20Madrid

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Queen Sofia wasn't in attendance,she is on a visit to the Philippines at present.
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« Reply #326 on: November 12, 2012, 10:20:41 AM »
Spain's Wildlife President King Carlos was recently seen posing proudly beside the bodies of elephants he get's kicks out of pre-stage slaughtering in Botswanna (triple fracturing his hip in the bargain)--a trip arranged, it is alleged, by one of the 74 year old monarch's long line of mistresses that he's aquired in the last 35 years.

Unwise PR.

Weird, King Carlos' slaughter house preoccupation given that he was directly/indirectly involved in the 1956 accidental shooting death of his twin brother Alfonso, and in 2004 was in the Spanish people's very bad books for gunning down 9 bears (one of which was pregnant) in Romania. After the King's latest PR Safari fiasco he lost no time announcing to the world that he would not be celebrating his 50th Golden Anniversary with his royal consort either in public or private which would confirm their estrangement. A planned stamp with the Golden bridal motif has also been dropped. According to respected royal commentator & former director of the respected daily ABC Jose Antonio Zarzalejos: "The failure of the King's marriage to the Queen, from whom he is practically separated, is public knowledge."

Quote, royal watcher Jaime Penafiel on Spain's Royal Golden Anniversary: "The King should instead mark the day with a minute of silence."

Aging monarch Carlos may no longer be besotted with his consort wife (if he ever he was) but that's not the point. The Queen has dutifully served Spain for 5 decades (producing an heir) in the service of the King's cause, his mistresses in tow, under very difficult circumstances and she deserves a modicum of respect--publicly & privately--from her irrant husband. If nothing else, the gracious & discreet Queen Sofia has put a brave face on a bad bargain for 40 years managing to look the radiant royal consort while King Carlos stood by her side DISGRUNTLED & SULKING.

Meanwhile, the Spainish press has had a field day in 2012; WWF has sacked the King, town councils in Spain are declaring him "persona non grata", his son-in-law has been accused of embezzling public funds, and a fair number of his subjects are asking that the once inviolate monarch abdicate. Unthinkable a year ago. In fact, it was only last Dec. that King Carlos was honored with the longest sustained ovation ever received in the congress building. Currently, the King's popularity is at it's lowest ebb since he came to the throne.

Running the gamut, King Juan Carlos even fell flat on his face inspected his military brass in Madrid!

Ostensibly, King Juan Carlos has spent his life devoted to one goal: PRESERVING THE SPAINISH MONARCHY. If this is the King's idea of how to get that job done then he's got a screw loose.

The above, currently, is the scenerio being playing out for the King of Spain.  If the reality is different there has been scant effort put forward by the Spainsh court, so far, to deny public perceptions.
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« Reply #327 on: November 12, 2012, 11:31:41 AM »
Correction. Infante Alfonso, killed in a shooting accident, was King Juan Carlos' younger brother.

"Most historians agree nowadays that the pistol was fired by Juan Carlos by accident. After the funeral the father Don Juan de Borbon, sent Juan Carlos back to Spain immediately after the funeral, and because of pain & anger, did not talk to him for awhile."

Meanwhile, for the sake of the monarchy, would it be beyond the call of duty for King Juan Carlos to occasionally put forward a supreme effort to look benignly in the direction of his royal consort Queen Sofia in public?

No.

Still. Will forever admire King Juan Carlos for publicly calling out Hugo Chavez "WHY DON'T YOU SHUT UP!"
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« Reply #328 on: December 21, 2012, 03:09:55 AM »

HM Queen Sophia and la Duquesa de Alba attended a the opening of an exhbition on the House of Alba,Madrid.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=18-12-2012%20Madrid

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« Reply #329 on: December 27, 2012, 06:00:33 PM »
Hello, there! Have been out for more than a year.
I want to propose a discussion theme that I don't think has ever been discussed: the circumstances of the restoration of the House of Spain. It is indeed very remarkable how, after 1931, Franco restored the monarchy in 1947, appointed Juan Carlos as future King in 1969, and finally, after 44 years, JCI completed the process of restoration.
What other events can be compared to the events in Spain? I can think of the dramatic events in Cambodia, where Norodom Sihanouk was restored after being for three years a prisoner of the Khmer Rouge.