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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #375 on: June 02, 2014, 09:24:03 AM »
I'm surprised - I didn't think he'd do it.

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« Reply #376 on: June 02, 2014, 09:37:24 AM »
Me neither, but I am really happy he did. Long may King Felipe reign and his consort, Queen Letizia!

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #377 on: June 02, 2014, 12:43:33 PM »
I called it a few months ago and got pounced on (on another forum). I just really had a feeling he would step down--it just seemed like a perfect storm of political, personal and health reasons compelling the decision.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #378 on: June 02, 2014, 03:12:31 PM »
-it just seemed like a perfect storm of political, personal and health reasons compelling the decision.

But then who wants to step down in disgrace?

It's interesting that Juan Carlos whose accession was hailed as such a triumph for good ends his reign in, well perhaps not disgrace, but in a much more sordid atmosphere than what has prevailed through most of his reign. Whereas Beatrix of the Netherlands, seen as cold, distant and married to "the enemy" in the beginning ended her reign as very popular, just like Albert of Belgium, who at his accession was not deemed to be able to fill the great and saintly shoes of his predecessor.
Березы севера мне милы,—
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #379 on: June 02, 2014, 04:26:42 PM »
Now there are republican demonstrations in Madrid with people chanting "¡Los Borbones a las elecciones!", demanding a referendum.
Березы севера мне милы,—
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #380 on: June 02, 2014, 05:33:27 PM »
I thought that such a thing would happen - a referendum. I just wonder if Fillipe will really be king. I hope so, though
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #381 on: June 03, 2014, 07:11:03 AM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #382 on: June 03, 2014, 11:39:20 AM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

Felipe and Letizia will stay in their current home.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #383 on: June 04, 2014, 03:15:25 PM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

Felipe and Letizia will stay in their current home.

Thanks - I see in the press that palace insiders are also saying they will remain at the Prince's Pavilion.  But I can't help but wonder if that is merely temporary?  It certainly makes sense for them to remain at the Zarzuela complex (given the vast investment in infrastructure spent there over the past few decades to make it suitable as a base of the King).  But while Zarzuela Palace is arguably the smallest / most humble residence among Europe's crowned heads, the Prince's Pavilion is even smaller!  It hardly seems sufficient to support the household and functions of the monarch - even assuming audiences and councils will take place at the adjoining main palace.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #384 on: June 06, 2014, 05:18:18 PM »
It's sort of sad things had to end this way for Juan Carlos. He was the man who succeeded Franco and brought democracy back to Spain and stopped a military coup. the Spainish people owe a debt of thanks for this.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #385 on: June 08, 2014, 11:59:45 AM »
It's sort of sad things had to end this way for Juan Carlos. He was the man who succeeded Franco and brought democracy back to Spain and stopped a military coup. the Spainish people owe a debt of thanks for this.

It is sad that it happened like that but on the other hand, there were problems and he does look old and tired.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #386 on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:24 PM »
It's official. King Juan Carols has abdicated. You can watch the ceremony here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGYEF9A8K8