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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #375 on: February 27, 2013, 09:00:14 AM »
I think coupling with a commoner is also a bit of risk. Look at the first commoner who married into the Royal Family : Anthony Armstrong Jones ? What a spectacular success that was ! Princess Marina, Duchess of Kent was against the Kent marriage from the start, and if not for Katherine's devotion to the the crown, it would have ended rather badly. Marina was right after all. I am not saying those I spoke of as "bottom of the barrel" as anything but unsuitable in status but not personality. There are more aristocrats in Austria, Hungary, France and not to mention Germany of course. Prince Aimone of Aosta and Prince Nicholas of Greece both chose within the class. I disagree that Prince Philip was a liability, his marriage to the Queen has its ups and downs. But they have been together for more than 60 years. He is a royal and knows how to behave.

I agree those three were well behaved, but what of Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, Mette, Crown Princess of Norway or Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York ? I totally agree with Princess Alice, Countess of Athlone who lived from the time between Queen Victoria to Queen Elizabeth II. "In my day, people do know their place". A well trained aristocrat who grew up in a firm "royal family" is a much better bet than a commoner who do not know how to behave when suddenly elevated to a new position. The handball player who suddenly found himself married to an infanta found opportunities he would not find. hence the temptation to do something inappropriate. I think quite a lot of Spanish Grandees agrees with this sentiment and stayed away from these kinds of celebrations with commoners.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #376 on: April 01, 2013, 03:50:11 AM »
HM Queen Sofia and TRH los Principes de Asturias and Princess Elena attended Mass at the Cathedral of Palma de Mallorca:

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=31-03-2013%20Mallorca

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #377 on: June 02, 2014, 05:20:45 AM »
Am I naive? I really didnot see this coming.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #378 on: June 02, 2014, 09:24:03 AM »
I'm surprised - I didn't think he'd do it.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #379 on: June 02, 2014, 09:37:24 AM »
Me neither, but I am really happy he did. Long may King Felipe reign and his consort, Queen Letizia!

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #380 on: June 02, 2014, 12:43:33 PM »
I called it a few months ago and got pounced on (on another forum). I just really had a feeling he would step down--it just seemed like a perfect storm of political, personal and health reasons compelling the decision.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #381 on: June 02, 2014, 03:12:31 PM »
-it just seemed like a perfect storm of political, personal and health reasons compelling the decision.

But then who wants to step down in disgrace?

It's interesting that Juan Carlos whose accession was hailed as such a triumph for good ends his reign in, well perhaps not disgrace, but in a much more sordid atmosphere than what has prevailed through most of his reign. Whereas Beatrix of the Netherlands, seen as cold, distant and married to "the enemy" in the beginning ended her reign as very popular, just like Albert of Belgium, who at his accession was not deemed to be able to fill the great and saintly shoes of his predecessor.
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #382 on: June 02, 2014, 04:26:42 PM »
Now there are republican demonstrations in Madrid with people chanting "¡Los Borbones a las elecciones!", demanding a referendum.
Берёзы севера мне милы,—
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Как речь безмолвная могилы,
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #383 on: June 02, 2014, 05:33:27 PM »
I thought that such a thing would happen - a referendum. I just wonder if Fillipe will really be king. I hope so, though
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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #384 on: June 03, 2014, 07:11:03 AM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

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« Reply #385 on: June 03, 2014, 11:39:20 AM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

Felipe and Letizia will stay in their current home.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #386 on: June 04, 2014, 03:15:25 PM »
Assuming that the republicans do not prevail and Felipe is proclaimed King, where will the new monarchs likely live?  Is it more likely that Juan Carlos and Sophia move out of Zarzuela to make way for their successors, or it is a better bet that Felipe and Letizia take up residence at El Pardo or another royal residence?

Felipe and Letizia will stay in their current home.

Thanks - I see in the press that palace insiders are also saying they will remain at the Prince's Pavilion.  But I can't help but wonder if that is merely temporary?  It certainly makes sense for them to remain at the Zarzuela complex (given the vast investment in infrastructure spent there over the past few decades to make it suitable as a base of the King).  But while Zarzuela Palace is arguably the smallest / most humble residence among Europe's crowned heads, the Prince's Pavilion is even smaller!  It hardly seems sufficient to support the household and functions of the monarch - even assuming audiences and councils will take place at the adjoining main palace.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #387 on: June 06, 2014, 05:18:18 PM »
It's sort of sad things had to end this way for Juan Carlos. He was the man who succeeded Franco and brought democracy back to Spain and stopped a military coup. the Spainish people owe a debt of thanks for this.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #388 on: June 08, 2014, 11:59:45 AM »
It's sort of sad things had to end this way for Juan Carlos. He was the man who succeeded Franco and brought democracy back to Spain and stopped a military coup. the Spainish people owe a debt of thanks for this.

It is sad that it happened like that but on the other hand, there were problems and he does look old and tired.

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Re: King Juan Carlos & Queen Sofia of Spain
« Reply #389 on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:24 PM »
It's official. King Juan Carols has abdicated. You can watch the ceremony here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmGYEF9A8K8