Author Topic: Spanish Habsburgs  (Read 64207 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Felipe II

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 74
  • QVOD IN CELIS SOL HOC IN TERRA CAESAR EST.
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2005, 09:39:04 AM »
Quote


Felipe was much more tolerant than what people think. It's true, however, that when he started to become an old man, he became more and more pious. But he was not as intolerant as protestants wanted him to look like. And there were only two significant auto-da-fés during his reign, one in Valladolid (1557, I think) and Seville (I would need to check up the exact date!)-.

I think in newer research he is more and more seen as a quite tolerant king.
It is amusing that the first auto-da-fé was in 1557 - the second year of his reign, and even the emperor was still alive. Did Karl V (Carlos I) had any influence on it?
PHILIPPVS SECVNDVS D: G: HISP: ET IND: REX CATH:

Offline belianis

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 58
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2008, 01:42:45 PM »
When John Joseph of Austria became the strongman of Spain in 1678, why didn't he go all the way and become king as well? Was it out of loyalty to his half-brother? Are there living descendants of John Joseph today?

Offline umigon

  • Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 933
    • View Profile
    • My Family Tree
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2008, 04:30:33 PM »

Juan José was kind towards Charles, but it wasn't just out of loyalty that he didn't usurp the throne: it was simply impossible in those times for a bastard to inherit a Crown, let alone if it had a legitimate king reigning.

Juan José had three known illegitimate daughters who didn't have any offspring, as they all became nuns:

1. Margarita de Austria (1650- Oct. 1686), she was born to Ana Lucía de Ribera, daughter of Jusepe Ribera, Lo Spagnoletto. She eloped with don Juan José when he was in Naples acting as Governor of that country, creating much scandal. Margarita became a nun in the Descalzas Convent in Madrid in 1665. She died there.

2. Catalina Ana Isabel de Austria (1661-26/11/1709). She was born in Madrid to an unknown mother and she died as a nun in Brussels.

3. Ana María Juana Ambrosia Vicenta de Austria (1663-17/3/1705). She was born in Madrid to an unknown mother and she died as a nun in Madrigal de las Altas Torres.
Gonzalo Velasco Berenguer

My Family Tree: www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=umigon

Royal Families: www.tribalpages.com/tribes?userid=gondan

Offline Lucien

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 7346
  • Courtier
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2010, 01:03:37 AM »
Habsburg is with a B,could a Mod please change that.It never is/was written with a P.
One doesn't change ones name because of sloppiness .Habsburg pls.
Je Maintiendrai

Offline Kalafrana

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 2912
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2010, 10:35:51 AM »
I have some personal interest in in-breeding, as my maternal grandparents were first cousins and my paternal grandparents first cousins once removed (my grandfather was first cousin to my grandmother's mother, to be exact)! I'm glad to say that both my brother and I are healthy (though my brother had quite bad asthma as a child), and neither of us has any wish to marry a relation!

The Spanish Habsburgs illustrate very clearly the danger of repeated cousin marriages - I read somewhere that Carlos II was descended from Juana la Loca no fewer than 14 times! Philip II and his first wife were double first cousins, and Philip's fourth wife, Anne of Austria, was his niece.

There has been some recent published research in Britain to the effect that genetic defects are more common among those of Asian descent because of the practice of repeated cousin marriage.


Naslednik Norvezhskiy

  • Guest
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2010, 02:06:45 AM »
The legendary 1911 edition of Encylopædia Britannica says: "Habsburg or Hapsburg". The spelling with p is outdated in English, yes, but by no means unheard of.

By the way, the Italians, who speak of La Casa d'Asburgo and gli Asburgi must be a real horror to you! Not even mentioning the Russians, with Габсбург = Gabsburg!!!
« Last Edit: May 15, 2017, 07:20:30 PM by trentk80 »

Offline Lucien

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 7346
  • Courtier
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2010, 05:54:28 AM »
The legendary 1911 edition of Encylopædia Britannica says: "Habsburg or Hapsburg". The spelling with p is outdated in English, yes, but by no means unheard of.

By the way, the Italians, who speak of La Casa d'Asburgo and gli Asburgi must be a real horror to you! Not even mentioning the Russians, with Габсбург = Gabsburg!!!

No,not at all.But apart from the examples you give wrong spelling can be a nuisance yes,sovjetnik :)
« Last Edit: May 15, 2017, 07:21:59 PM by trentk80 »
Je Maintiendrai

Offline Bernardino

  • Boyar
  • **
  • Posts: 205
  • Real, Real, Real, por El-Rei de Portugal!
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2010, 05:22:01 PM »
Hi everyone!

Does anyone know where was buried the Duchess of Savoy, Infanta Catalina Micaela of Spain and Portugal, daughter of King Felipe II-I ?

Thank you for your attention

Offline mardam

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 49
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
    • mardam royalty(travel)guide
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2010, 07:11:05 AM »
She is buried in the San Michele della Chiusa in Turin.

Offline Marc

  • Velikye Knyaz
  • ****
  • Posts: 4345
  • I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
    • View Profile
Re: Spanish Habsburgs
« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2012, 08:36:50 PM »
Can anyone tell me more about relation between Philip II of Spain and Countess Margarethe von Waldeck-Wildungen(1533-1554),who was an inspiration for "Snow-white"...as far as I have read,they met in Brussels and became lovers(?) ...It is also said that her stepmother Katharina von Hatzfeld hated her and that that is the reason she was sent away as a young girl to Brussels where she met Philip who fell in love with her,but Charles V wanted politically important bride...

She died in 1554 apparently of poisoning...

Anyone knows more about this story?And was there any truth behind this?