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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2005, 12:54:47 PM »
LOL, I am most certainly not in the UK, but I saw it.  ;D
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #76 on: October 22, 2005, 02:57:55 PM »
i read in various places, not only that paul was saltykov's child, but that catherine took saltykov as a lover at empress elizabeth's suggestion... so even if it's true or not, it certainly is more than just an assumption on bbc's part. we can consider it a rumour, if you want. but it's a rumour that is being considered by more than one historian
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« Reply #77 on: October 23, 2005, 06:58:26 AM »
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LOL, I am most certainly not in the UK, but I saw it.  ;D



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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #78 on: October 23, 2005, 07:08:44 AM »
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i read in various places, not only that paul was saltykov's child, but that catherine took saltykov as a lover at empress elizabeth's suggestion... so even if it's true or not, it certainly is more than just an assumption on bbc's part. we can consider it a rumour, if you want. but it's a rumour that is being considered by more than one historian


Yes, and the extracts this show used from Catherine's memoirs certainly indicate that!
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #79 on: October 23, 2005, 03:14:39 PM »
of course, considerring that catherine did try more than once to prove that paul was not peter's son, she would have had to find some excuse for her cheating on her husband. sure, her husband being the way he was was a pretty good excuse but having the royal sanction was even better. so you can't judge the situation 100% by catherine's testimonial.
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #80 on: October 24, 2005, 12:40:51 PM »
We are fans of Catherine The Great!!!
Anyone has pics about her???
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #81 on: October 28, 2005, 01:51:08 PM »
Don't forget to watch Part 2 tonight, if you can!  :)
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #82 on: October 28, 2005, 02:35:25 PM »
can't :(
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2005, 02:45:52 PM »
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can't :(


I'll be sure to make a concise report then.  ;D
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2005, 04:43:23 PM »
Great concluding episode covering Catherine's relationship and possible marriage to Potemkin, her expansions of Russian territory and her later years. :)
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #85 on: October 29, 2005, 08:58:55 AM »
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Great concluding episode covering Catherine's relationship and possible marriage to Potemkin, her expansions of Russian territory and her later years. :)


Was mentioned in the documentary that Catherine had  a daughter from Potemkin? Her name was Elizaveta Grigorievna Temkina.

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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #86 on: October 29, 2005, 09:00:14 AM »
It mentioned an illegitimate daughter, I think, but that was while Empress Elizabeth was still alive - could such a baby be Potemkin's child?
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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #87 on: October 29, 2005, 09:13:48 AM »
Catherine had more than one illegitimate children. Her daughter Anna (1759) was a child of Stanislaw Ponjatowskiy (King-to-be of Poland). Count Alexey Bobrinsky (1762) was a son of Catherine anf Count Grigoriy Orlov. And Catherine gave a birth to a daughter in the beginning of the 1770s, this was Elizaveta Temkina,who reached a great age and was well-informed about who were her parents...

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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2005, 12:25:58 AM »
The portrait of Ms. Temkina by Borovikovsky is in the Tretiyakov Gallery.

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Re: Empress Catherine II
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2005, 05:55:45 PM »
Here is a short biographical article with some pictures of Catherine:

http://www.geocities.com/mushkah/CatherineGreat.html