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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2009, 12:30:28 PM »
They don't hold "imperial highness" even if they are pretenders to Imperial throne or just the Head and his wife are entitled to that?

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2009, 01:11:00 PM »
The Head of House, his heir...the law does not refer to their spouses, but by courtesy they would.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #137 on: June 19, 2009, 06:12:11 AM »
Yes the descendents of Dona Isabel de Bragança, Imperial Princess of Brazil, were indeed intitled Princes of Orléans and Bragança, Royal Highness, after an agreement made with the Head of the French Royal House (Orléans), but that agreement does not affect the titles given by the Brazilian Imperial Constitution...So every dynast is a Prince of Brazil, Highness...in addition they are also Ps of O-B, Royal Highness...This way, a dynast is His/Her (Royal) Highness X/Y de Orleans e Bragança, Prince(ss) of Brazil, Prince(ss) of Orléans and Bragança...Only the Head of the House and his/her heir would be styled Imperial Highness, they use the style Imperial and Royal Highness...but apparently many times this style is accorded informally to all Orléans-Braganças even non dynasts...

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #138 on: June 21, 2009, 06:48:19 AM »
Ok,I asked just because in the official royal site of Serbia for example Maria da Gloria d'Orleans-Braganca was styled her Imperial and Royal Highness...here is the link...just scroll down to see how they styled her...

http://www.royalfamily.org/family/hrhcpa_bio.htm

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #139 on: October 16, 2009, 01:05:09 PM »
HI&RH Princess Isabel of Orléans Braganca will marry Alexander Count zu Stolberg - Stolberg In Rio de Janeiro today.

Several European Royal Families are represented in Rio,among them TRH Prince Jaime and Princess Maria-Carolina de Bourbon Parma,
who represent the House de Bourbon Parme.

Princess Isabel (31) is a psychologist and a great great grandchild of the last Emperor,Pedro II of Brazil,
the groom is the son of Jozef,Count zu Stolberg-Stolberg and his belgian born wife Jaqueline,Countess zu Stolberg-Stolberg,néé Lady de Duikinberg .
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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #140 on: October 17, 2009, 03:09:04 AM »
HI&RH Princess Isabel of Orléans Braganca will marry Alexander Count zu Stolberg - Stolberg In Rio de Janeiro today.


In Brazil, only Dom Luiz,  the Head of House and imperial and his brother prince  Dom Bertrand, heir apparent, are " imperial and royal highness".
The other princes an princesses de Orleans e Bragança are "royal highness",  by vertue of an agreement concluded in 1909 between the head of the House of Orléans, Philippe, duke of Orléans et his cousin, Count of Eu, imperial princess Isabel of Brazil's husband. Before 1909, they were simply "highness"  provided that ... the marriage of their parents was "equal"...The children born from a marriage unequal were untitled. They were: N... of Orleans e Bragança

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #141 on: December 14, 2009, 06:57:36 AM »
I read Prince Peter August of Saxe Coburg Braganza died in a mental hospital in Wien, Austria,  after staying there 40 years. Anyone knows if he received visits from his relatives during all those years? His case remembered the insane King Otto of Bavaria who was also confined for 40 years.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #142 on: December 15, 2009, 08:32:40 PM »
Really Who is this Peter of Saxe-Coburg-Braganza. How is he related to the current pretender ?

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #143 on: December 17, 2009, 02:44:11 AM »
Prince Peter August was the eldest son of Princess Leopoldina of Brasil and August of Saxe Coburgo Kohary. The current pretender descends from Peter's  maternal aunt Isabel of Brasil.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #144 on: December 17, 2009, 10:39:49 AM »
Thanks. Someone should do a book on the Brazillian Imperial Family. Most books deal only with Crown Princess Isabel of Brazil. A family bio with family trees would be more helpful and in order.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #145 on: December 27, 2009, 12:52:53 PM »
Your request is included in Chapter V of The Gotha – Still a Continental Royal Family. This chapter is dedicated to the Brazilian royal family and it is updated to the wedding of Princess Isabel and Count Alexander of Stolberg-Stolberg.

This wedding s also covered in Issue LXXI of The European Royal History Journal. Both bride and groom were extremely helpful in our reporting of their wedding.


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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #146 on: December 27, 2009, 01:52:27 PM »
Sounds good. Is that a first of aseries of books ?

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2009, 12:19:30 AM »
This is Volume I. Volume II and III will be dedicated to the German Empire. Volume IV includes the remaining monarchies: Iberian Monarchies, Italian monarchies, Scandinavian Monarchies, Russian Empire and The United Kingdom.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #148 on: December 28, 2009, 01:06:30 PM »
Actually the Royal House of France and Portugal are a bit complicated since they have other branches. The House of Bourbon has four (France (Orleans), Spain, Parma and Naples), while Portugal has two (Portugal & Brazil). Sometimes it is easier to see it in a family context than in geographical locations. For example since The Bourbon-Sicilies family do not reside or rule the terriotory. Not to mention of the same family having rival claims to being head of the House. They cross too when The Duke Of Cadiz died, his son revert back to claims of the Bourbons in France, in direct confrontation with his Orleans cousins.

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Re: Braganza royal family & Brazilian royalty
« Reply #149 on: December 30, 2009, 09:48:39 PM »
And Bourbon and Braganca are two lines of the same male-line family,the House of Capet ;-)