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Correct family name of the dynasty
« on: March 25, 2005, 01:46:15 PM »
I know the royal family has a sort of last name.... I heard that it is Oldenburg, sometimes I hear of it as Glucksburg.. which one of these is correct, if any?

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2005, 04:04:21 PM »
The correct name for the dynasty would be Slesvig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg, and short Glucksburg. They are a kadet branch of the house of Oldenbourg, which died out in the male line in 1863.
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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2005, 09:59:11 AM »
The House of Oldenburg has not died out at all.  The Danish branch of this North German dynasty became extinct in 1863.  Christian of Schleswig-Holstein had been previously chosen as heir to the Danish Holsteins, although his wife Louise had a much closer claim to that throne.

In 1918 the last Grand Duke of Oldenburg, Friedrich August, renounced his crown at the collapse of the German Empire.  He died in the 1930's and was succeeded as Head of House by his onmly surviving son, Hereditary Prince Nikolaus, who in turn was succeeded as Head of House by his eldest son, Duke Anton Günther, who remains in this position and quite alive.  I saw and photographed him last year at a royal funeral.  His son, Duke Christian, is married and has four children, among them three boys.  In fact there are 14 male Oldenburgs all with dysnatic rights alive today.

Further information can be obtained from: THE GRAND DUCAL HOUSE OF OLDENBURG: German Royal and Princely Families, Volume XXV - Eurohistory.com, Oakland, CA 2005.

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2005, 01:15:46 PM »
I forgot about the German Oldenburgs. I was completely away in my Danish history-thinking :).
As I remember it, they came from the House of Holstein-Gottorp, a cadet branch of the Danish Oldenburgs.They became Oldenburgs again after the treaty between Denmark and Russia..
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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2005, 05:11:30 PM »
Yes,you are right!I would like to know much more interesting things about ''forgotten'' German Oldenburgs and to see some of their portraits if possible?

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2005, 11:38:50 PM »
I had no idea Oldenburg had a family branch of German blood. I've always thought of The House of Oldenburg as the ruling house of Greece.
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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2005, 01:27:59 PM »
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I forgot about the German Oldenburgs. I was completely away in my Danish history-thinking :).
As I remember it, they came from the House of Holstein-Gottorp, a cadet branch of the Danish Oldenburgs.They became Oldenburgs again after the treaty between Denmark and Russia..


Not sure if this link is of any help?

http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/Oldenburg_Royal_Family.htm

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2005, 02:28:28 PM »
Thanks for the link. Hadnt noticed it was your site, but I have used it many times on all the royal families..

The royal house of Greece, aswell as Denmark and Norway is named Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glucksburg. Oldenburg would be less correct for all of them.

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2005, 10:13:50 PM »
If you ask me I would use both names with Oldenburg as(or rather like) a prefix to all those surnames!It would sound then von Oldenburg-Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Gluicksburg because all the Holstein dyansties derived from the House von Oldenburg witch is their ancient name!

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2007, 10:31:04 PM »
Were the titles of Duke or Duchess ever given to members of the Danish Royal House?   Or was there ever a class of nobility bearing Dukes and Duchesses?

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2007, 02:30:16 AM »
The danish kings held the title as Duke of Sleswig-Holstein from 1460-1864, from Christian I til Christian IX. Denmark has never had a nobility class who held the title as duke or duchess. We "only" had/have barons and counts, with different levels of rank. Today no one can advance into nobility. Only members of the royal family who marry "commoners", may be "Count of Rosenborg" instead of prince. But that's for the monarch to decide.
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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2007, 01:53:21 PM »
The children of the Danish kings all had the title of Duke of Schleswig-Holstein and were styled as such up til Frederik III (ruled 1648-1670), who introduced the hereditary monarchy with the Prince/Princess titles.
But no member of the RF was given a Duchy or a Ducal title in the kingdom Denmark. The only Danish Duchy was Schleswig and after all the problems it created the kings were not allowed to grand other Duchies or Ducal titles within the Kingdom.
The only Duke who ranked in the Danish nobility were the Dukes of Glücksbierg. The title was given in 1818 to the French politican Decazes who was a favorite of Louis XVIII. 

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 12:52:51 PM »
The House of Oldenburg has not died out at all.  The Danish branch of this North German dynasty became extinct in 1863.
Would it be correct to call this line Schleswig-Holstein-Glückstadt or did that name only refer to their part of the Duchies of Schleswig-Holstein?

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 05:16:40 PM »
No, they were never called that, nor did they have a part of the Duchies that was called Schleswig-Holstein-Glückstadt.

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Re: Correct family name of the dynasty
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 05:29:24 PM »
No, they were never called that, nor did they have a part of the Duchies that was called Schleswig-Holstein-Glückstadt.
But the royal part of the Duchies was sometimes known as Schleswig-Holstein-Glückstadt. (Because it was administered from Glückstadt 1649-1834 (since 1713 only the Holsteinian part).)
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