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About Ortino's Origin
« on: March 31, 2005, 05:32:38 PM »
Hi everyone,

Firstly, I wasn't sure where to post this so I decided I would pick the busiest forum. Sorry if this isn't the right place.

So my topic is about the bulldog Ortino. My surname is Ortino, and from what I understand it isn't a very common name. I was wondering if anyone could give me some background on where the dog would get a name like mine. To the best of my knowledge my ancestors lived in Rome, Italy and I also had some family in Milan in the north.

I was born and raised in Toronto, Canada and I don't know much otherwise. Through some research I have noted a small outpost in Sibera also named Ortino, likely after the dog.

So I was wondering what the origin of Ortino's name was. Any interesting history or is this just a coincidence?

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2005, 05:39:02 PM »
I actually thought the dog was 'Ortipo', but there is some confusion. I have seen the Empress write it as Ortipo sometimes, Ortino other times. The Russian cursive p looks like English n. Can someone clarify the actual name of the dog? I very much doubt a town in Siberia would be named for GD Tatiana's pet dog somehow!

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 08:18:08 PM »
I heard that Ortino (Or Ortipo) was an author or dignitary of some sort, and the children liked his plays so they named the dog after him. This was discussed in the Final Chapter thread under the wherabouts of the dogs after the IF's murder.
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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 10:08:27 PM »
Ortino was named for Dmitri Malama's favorite pet; Malama gave Tatiana the dog.  I believe Ortino was his own dog (or was it a horse?  I forget).  Anyway, she named her doggy Ortino to please her crush!

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 10:48:23 PM »
How very original you were in terms of username choice.

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I actually thought the dog was 'Ortipo', but there is some confusion. I have seen the Empress write it as Ortipo sometimes, Ortino other times. The Russian cursive p looks like English n. Can someone clarify the actual name of the dog? I very much doubt a town in Siberia would be named for GD Tatiana's pet dog somehow!


From what I know, the dog's name is Ortino, not Ortipo. It was misspelled, for as you said, the Russian p is looks like an n.  Perhaps the name is French? It was a french bulldog after all.
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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2005, 11:02:16 PM »
From the book about ALexei by Eugenie of Greece, Tatiana named Ortino after Dmitri Malama's horse who was also named Ortino...  From something I'm writing about TN:

During her time working as a nurse, Tatiana befriended a young wounded soldier named Dmitri Malama.  He often spoke to Tatiana about his favorite French bulldog named Roja, and his favorite horse which he had named Ortino.  Tatiana commented to him in passing that she, too, wished she could have a dog like Malama’s.  As a gift to his friend, Malama gave Tatiana a little French bulldog whom she named Ortino to please the handsome young soldier (Greece 133).  

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2005, 01:20:49 AM »
Ortino was the  hero of the Shaekspire's one comedy (Twelve night , Isuppose) , maybe the name came from there.

I have found the photo with the same looking dog, which was Marie Pavlovna's one.
It seems that it was the fashionable type of the dog those times.

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2005, 08:08:38 PM »
Thanks for the infor Lanie.
It would be cool to see a picture
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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2005, 10:23:22 AM »
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Ortino was the  hero of the Shaekspire's one comedy (Twelve night , Isuppose) , maybe the name came from there.


Actually, not to nitpick, but the character is Duke Orsino, and you're quite right about him being from 'Twelfth Night'. He's not so much the hero as the love interest of the heroine, who has to go through no end of trouble to fend off Olivia, the woman Orsino is courting, and make Orsino fall in love with her while pretending to be a lad. I'm sorry for being so picky, that just happens to be one of my favourites of his comedies, and Viola is still my favourite role to play. Binding my chest wasn't so fun, but the role itself is SUCH a joy! ;D

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Re: About Ortino's Origin
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2015, 01:37:59 PM »
Hello all,

So, it has been over ten years since I posted this. I think about it sometimes that it was likely that the dog's name was phonetically "Ortipo."

I tried a quick search to find the Siberian region named "Ortino" however, I was unable to locate it. I had previously found it in Google maps, I remember that clearly. BTW there seems to be a reference to it in Arctic Archaeology by Peter Rowley-Conwy and Arctic, Antarctic, and Alpine Research, Volume 36 Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research, University of Colorado-Boulder, 2004

"... indicating climate and tree-line changes derived from a ... seciton at Ortino in the Pechora lowland, northern Russia."

Any updates in the last little while? ;)  Just thought I'd say "Hi," and best wishes to all you history buffs and thanks to all who replied!
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