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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2005, 10:48:28 AM »
Great Idea AGRBear!  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2005, 08:33:36 PM »
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Does anyone know if this is Maria or Anastasia? It could be anyone of OTMA...look at the forehead. It reminds me of Olga's.
It looks a little like Ana but they were young so I don't know.


What a great looking horse!

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2005, 11:23:22 PM »
Thank you bear. I love looking at the sites.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2005, 03:52:15 PM »
Natalya I just stumbled back on to this forum again.....I love the picture you have of Alexandra with the black dog in her lap, it could very well be a Scotty!!
Does anyone know anything about this picture, where and when it was taken......and anything about that little black dog??
Who are the little boys sitting with Alexei?  What a wonderful picture.
Thank you so much!
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2005, 05:25:03 PM »
2. Anastasia King Charles Spaniel was also called Jemmy or Jimmy:http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html

Which is the correct spelling for the King Charles Spaniel:
Jemmy
or
Jimmy???

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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2005, 10:42:52 AM »
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Sadly enough, he wasn’t allowed to ride on horseback but he did have his picture taken as if he was!

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2005, 10:18:34 AM »
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2. Anastasia King Charles Spaniel was also called Jemmy or Jimmy:http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html

Which is the correct spelling for the King Charles Spaniel:
Jemmy
or
Jimmy???

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It's Jemmy.  She was Tatiana's, instead of Anastasia's, or so I've been told.  But it obviously favored Anastasia over it's owner.

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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2005, 10:31:41 AM »
Please add other links which leads us to other information about these royal pets:

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____________________LIST____________
>Nicholas II
1. & 2. Nicholas's two dogs - Varon (collie) and Iman:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html


>Olga

2. Olga's Maltese:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/paltea.html
3.  Could be another photo of Olga's Maltese with Nicholas II and Alexandra:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/paltea2.html

>Tatiana
1. Tatiana's dog, a French Bulldog, was called Ortino: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html

3.  King Charles Spaniel was also called Jemmy or Jimmy: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html


1. Anastasia's first dog, Jemmy -  Japanese Chin: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html


>Alexei
1. Alexei's dog Joy - Springer Spaniel: http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html

3.  Alexei's dog, name not known - http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/imperialpets2.html
4.  Another site with dog Joy:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/alekjoy.html

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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2005, 04:34:50 PM »
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Here’s a photo of Alexis with his Hessian cousins (taken in Friedberg). He’s holding the same dog as on the first photo.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2005, 03:05:36 PM »
Dear Natalya, I am new to this site and I just discovered your wonderful coloured picture of HIM Alexandra holding this little brindle-black dog, surrounded by Her Husband and 4 of Her children and Her two Hesse and The Rhine nephews Georg-Donatus and Ludwig. The dog is the same that HIH Alexis is holding in his arms on two other photos ( including the one on the bench with again His 2 Hessian cousins ) and it is a brindle french bulldog or toy bulldog, though this frenchie does not have the typical bat ears of the breed but the rose ears early french bulldogs had in the 1900s ( HIH Tatiana had Ortino later on in 1914 and Ortino had the right bat ears so typical of frenchies ).
Is it possible to know where you found this wonderful photo of Alexandra having the little frenchie on her laps ? How did you find out about the colours of the clothes ( purple beeing a mourning colour ) ? I feel that the photo dates from the 1910 visit to Darmstadt, is that right ? Do you have a version of the photo with all the family gathering ? Thanks. Mitia.

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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2005, 08:42:21 AM »
No one has discussed the fact that Nicholas had a pet parrot named Popov that he inherited from his father.
I thought I saw a picture of a parrot in a cage next to some stone steps leading to the terrace at the Lower dacha at Peterhof,
Does anyone have any information on this parrot or photos?

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« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2005, 02:14:31 PM »
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Is it the one you search ?



I didn't post it before, because it seems to look very much at this dog :



And look at Joy, his hind leg is more black, and his muzzle have white :







But maybe I am wrong because all the time I saw the first pic, it was labelled "Joy and Alexis", tell me, please, if you are more informations  :)
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2005, 02:31:07 PM »
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Greg and I tried to sort out these doggy logistics in The Fate of the Romanovs, and here's what we concluded:

Jemmy, Joy and Ortino departed Tsarskoye Selo with the family, and lived with them through the days in Tobolsk.  After N, A and M left for Ekaterinburg, the three dogs remained with the rest of the children, and traveled to E'burg on board the Rus and by train with them.  The family, including the three dogs, were reunited in the Ipatiev House.  During captivity there, the dogs were fed on the upper balcony, just outside the dining room and what became Demidova's bedroom.  After the murders and during the White investigations, the bones found on this balcony were itemized as remains of the dogs' last dinner in the house.

Various guards also recount stories of the girls, especially Anastasia, teaching the dogs tricks and making them perform in the garden.

After the murders, we know that Joy was taken from the Ipatiev House to Michael Letemin's house, where he was discovered in the garden by the Whites.  Jemmy was obviously taken somewhere by someone most likely connected to the Bolsheviks, for the little dog was still available to them when they were looking for physical evidence with which to "salt" the mine, as suggested by Summers and Mangold.

Ortino's fate, we believe, is most likely found in Michael Kudrin's testimony of December 1963, when he recalled that as the bodies were being moved from the basement of the house into the truck, a little dog appeared from upstairs, and rushed into the courtyard, obviously much distressed and upset and probably looking for his people.  Kudrin is silent on whether or not the dog was behaving like a guard dog, but it would not have been out of the ordinary for a Frenchie -- a famously protective breed -- to become territorial and vicious in defense of his family, the moreso because their scents were at that time overlayed with the smell of gunsmoke and blood.  In any case, a soldier took up his bayonet and stabbed the dog to death, throwing his body into the truck with the Romanovs.  "A dog's death to dogs," Kudrin remembered Goloshchokin commenting as they stood watching.

We think that perhaps some of the "mammal bones" found at the Four Brothers were those of Ortino.

What a brave little guy he was... =)
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2005, 06:22:07 PM »
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Does the cat have a name?
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In that last picture it looks like Alexei is with Joy and Maria's siamese cat!


Is the cat  "Silina"?

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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2005, 01:30:45 PM »
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Anyone reconize this white dog?

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