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« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2006, 06:53:12 PM »
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Alexis, Nicholas II and turkeys.

Anyone know where this was taken?

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I think this picture was taken at Tobolsk.
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« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2006, 07:07:13 PM »
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Does anyone know the name of this dog and to whom the dog belongs?

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I think this is the same dog:



According to the main AP site, Alexei had a white dog named Boika, so this may be him.

The dog in Reply #64 is not Ortino--the identity of this dog was discussed elsewhere, but I can't remember the thread.
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« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2006, 01:28:01 PM »
To me, the dog along the waterfont looks smaller with longer hair than the white dog on the boat.




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« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2006, 01:30:56 PM »



Princess Xenia of Russia, dau. of GD George Mikailovich, and I assume her German Sheperd dog.

Anyone know the dog's name?

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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2006, 01:42:41 PM »
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Alexis and is this cat called  Vaska?  Who's cat?

The dog is Joy.

The photo was found in Tukker-ragacco's collection on Alexis found at:
 
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Alexei-7/
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« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2006, 02:56:20 PM »
Vaska was Olga's cat. Vaska was striped while the cat in the picture is clearly Siamese. Alexei had his own cat, but I don't know its name.

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« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2006, 03:15:48 PM »


So you think this dog's name is Boika?



A Samoyed gets to be about 50 to 65 pounds. Height about 19 to 20 inches.

German Spitz grows to about 25 pounds.  Height is only 11 inches.

Japanese Spitz is small and about 13 pounds as an adult.  Can get to about 14 inches high.

I think the ears are not quite right to be a Norwegian Bunhund, however, they are back so it's hard to tell.  This dog weights in from 26 to 40 pounds and stand about 18 inches.  It's considered a "Spitz type".

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« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2006, 04:00:50 PM »
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Lili Dehn in "The Real Tsarina" states that Maria owned a Siamese cat - I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else though

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Is this Maria's Siamese cat?
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« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2006, 04:09:09 PM »
Irish Setters:

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This afternoon one of my grandchildren sent me an article about Nicholas II's Irish Setters because she knows I'm interested in the Romanovs, and, too, we have a "hunting" Irish Setter, our second, the first lived to be 17 years old.

Anyone know more about these dogs, please, let me know because I'm interested.

Also, I'm curious to know if Nicholas II had a favorite horse as a child then as an adult which he rode and does anyone know their names?

I know there are threads about Alexandra's, Olga's, Tatiana's, Anastasia and Alexei's pets but none about Nicholas II.

Did he have a favorite dog as a child....?

Love photographs.

Here is the article:
>>The Montebello line of Irish Setters is thought by some to have originated from Florence Nagle Kennel (Sulhampstead) bloodlines.  The kennel was owned and operated by a wealthy Norwegian.  During the occupation of Norway by the Germans in World War II,  this individual was friendly with the Germans, and did some work for them.  When the Germans left Norway, some accounts say they took some of the Montebello setters back to Germany with them.  Others say that no original Montebello dogs entered Germany, and the pedigree records indicate this is factual.  After the war, Russian invaders found these dogs and took them to Russia, where they were crossed with dogs from the kennels of Czar Nikolaus.   Nikolaus at one time had 40 to 60 Irish Setters in his kennel.  In the late 1960s, two dogs from these crosses were imported to Finland, where they were crossed with other Irish Setters from the original  Montebello line, now located in Finland.  One of these was the well known Irish setter Viking.  The fate of other Russian Irish Setters is not known.  Some Russian bloodlines were exported through the Czech Republic.  The breeding program in Russia was known to be outstanding, and it is fortunate that some of those dogs were exported.  The fate of much of the program is, unfortunately, unknown. Much of the Scandinavian working Irish Setter blood today is a product of Montebello.  The bloodline is carefully regarded, and only very selective crossbreeding from outside lines is introduced.  Most of what is considered comes from Jack Nash's Moanruad Kennel offspring.  Montebello setters have been imported into the United States<<

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« Reply #69 on: April 14, 2006, 12:34:16 PM »
More information.

The archive link is broken.  I do not know where this particular quote sunyluv found can be located at this time.

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Does not sound like it, though I read that the family had their own zoo and there were all kind of animals including parrots and guine pigs in the house--though I can not verify the source;
Here is the paragraph from archives (http://www.alexanderpalace.org/palace/anna3.html)
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"The Emperor and Empress and all the children were passionately fond of pets, especially dogs. The Emperor's inseparable companion for many years was a splendid English collie named Iman, and when in the natural course of time this dog died the Emperor was inconsolable. After that he had a fine kennel of collies but he never made a special pet of any dog. The favorite dog of the Empress was a small, shaggy terrier from Scotland. This dog's name was Eira, and, to tell the truth, I did not like the little animal at all. His disagreeable habit of darting from under chairs and snapping at people's heels was a trial to my nerves. Nevertheless the Empress doted on him, carried him under her arm even to the dinner table, and amused herself greatly talking to and playing with the dour little creature. When he fell ill and had to be mercifully killed she wept in real grief and pity. Alexei's pets were two, a silky little spaniel named Joy and a beautiful big gray cat, the gift of General Voyeikov. It was the only cat in the household and it was a privileged animal, even being allowed to sleep on Alexei's bed. There were two other dogs, Tatiana's French bull and a little King Charlie which I contributed to the menagerie. Both of these dogs went with the family to Siberia, and Jimmie, the King Charles spaniel, was found shot to death in that dreadful deserted house in Ekaterinburg."


Anyone know about Alexis "big grey cat"?

Apparently, Gen. Voyeikov was unware that  there were two other cats, a striped cat called Vaska, which belonged to Olga,  and Maria's Siamese.

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« Reply #70 on: April 14, 2006, 01:12:10 PM »

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When Alexandra first moved to Russia (during Alexander III's illness) she didn't bring Eira, who was brought to Petersburg by Zanotti later.

I have only seen one picture that I am pretty sure is of Alexandra and Eira - I will try and find it.  He wasn't a Scottie - more like Toto from the Wizard of Oz.

Eira iis buried on the Children's Island.  I have a picture of his grave.

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« Reply #71 on: April 14, 2006, 02:16:20 PM »



Eira on lap of Alexandra
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« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2006, 03:53:57 PM »
Photo's continued:

 The photo was found in Tukker-ragacco's collection on Alexis found at:
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Alexei-7/


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« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2006, 03:59:48 PM »
 The photo was found in Tukker-ragacco's collection on Alexis found at:
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Alexei-7/

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« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2006, 04:01:28 PM »
 Photo's continued:
 
 The photo was found in Tukker-ragacco's collection on Alexis found at:  
http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/Alexei-7/

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