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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2005, 03:52:30 PM »
The following site has some great photographs.
 I stumbled into it when looking for Gen. Janin data.
 The title is America's Secret War.

http://secretwar.hhsweb.com/

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2005, 02:02:48 PM »
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Thanks!!   :) :) :)

How the heck did I miss that?!   :-[ :D


The Americans definitely fought for the Whites. :) However, i'm not surprised that you never heard of this aspect of American military involvement because it was not popular. Even today most people still know nothing of it, and i'm not sure why it is not spoken of in classes more often.
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2005, 02:53:22 PM »
I know that this threads subject is :
'Americans fought Bolsheviks in Russia'.

Don't know how to start another thread if it's needed.
Could someone start a thread on that below, entitled:
'Americans fought for Bolsheviks and the RR'?

But, i'm wondering how many Americans are there known whom fought for and alongside the Bolsheviks in Russia?

How many Americans joined and fought alongside  other revolutionary groups in Russia?

How much I wonder was sent out of America, to support the needs of the revolution, and finally the Soviet Government  from Americans here at home from Americans?

Thanks,

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2005, 05:00:41 PM »
There are many people digging through all kinds of records, document, etc. as we write.  Books are being formed but a lot will be lost because here are not enough people interested.

I'm not sure who the "RR" is.

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PS To start your own topic, click on Russian Revolution.  Near the top line where you see the numbers for pages 1,2,3 on the left and  on the right you see "Start New Topic", click on it, incert the title, write out a message, post, and you have your own thread.
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2005, 11:14:42 PM »
Dear Bear,

Thank you so very much. Your the first person who was kind enough to 'clue' me on on how to post. Think I have the hang of it, lol. It worked !

Yes, I'm sure that there is still more than enough to write about the russian revolution, people, issues, etc.

Glad to find that there is even a place as this to voice a question, and gain feedback. Don't think there is anything like this on all of the internet. It's a great place, and certainly keeps me occupied, and my mind off my 24/7 pain.

Thank you again Bear. : )

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2006, 05:56:53 PM »
FIGHTING THE BOLSHEVIKS by Donald Carey, edited  by Neil G. Carey who wrote the preface p. x:

>>This is the daily record and recollections of Pfc. Donald E. Carey, E Company, 339th Infantry Regiment,  85th Division (detachment in north Russia), one of the 5,600 American soldiers who fought the Bolsheviks there during 1918 and 1919.<<

Let me repeat the number of American soldiers who fought the Bolsheviks.  There were 5,600 known soldiers.  

The Preface of this books gves us seven reasons why Pres. Wilson ordered American troops to Russia and Siberia from p. x to xii.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2006, 03:31:46 PM »


FIGHTIN THE BOLSHEVIKS
Edited by Neil G. Carey

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2006, 03:35:55 PM »


Private First Class Donald E. Carey, U.S. Army 1918-1919

[Company E., 339th Infantry]

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2006, 03:56:23 PM »
In my efforts to find more information on the American US Soldiers in Russia who fought the Bolshviks,  I went to Google,  clicked on "images" and wrote in these words  "339th Infantry Russia".  Up poped dozens of images.  Take a look.  Meanwhile,  I see what I can post here.

What I was looking for was a photo of:

Colonel George Stewart, U.S.A. commanding officer of the 339th Infantry.



I did find one on Wilds P. Richardson who relieved Stewart in April of 1919.  

I'll  post Richardson photograph when I find the time.

List:
#http://pages.prodigy.net/mvgrobbel/photos/339photos.htm

#http://www.umich.edu/~bhl/bhl/mhchome/polarb.htm
On this web site you'll find the following:
Descriptions of Collections:

     Manuscripts, Photographs, and Maps:
   * Abel, Henry J.
   * Albers, George
   * Anderson, Godfrey J.
   * Arkins, Edwin L.
   * Bahr, Golden C.
   * Bigelow, John W.
   * Billeau, Ewald H.
   * Bonnell, Jay H.
   * Boren, John
   * Broaddus, B. F.
   * Bruce, E. D.
   * Buckler, Aldred S.
   * Chriswell, Keith
   * Clark, Rodger Sherman
   * Colburn, Cleo M.
   * Crissman, John Sherman
   * Douma, Frank W.
   * Dundon, Walter F.
   * Flaherty, Edward
   * Frisbie, Nora G.
   * Fulcher, Earl
   * Geltz, Albert E.
   * Glassford, Harold T.
   * Heath, Alex
   * Henkelman, William
   * Jenks, Stillman Visscher
   * Jung, Frank Richard
   * Katz, Henry
   * Kiel, Frank Burdette
   * Lewis, Charles E.
   * Macalla, Michael J.
   * McGrath, Frank J.
   * McKenzie, Walter Ingles
   * McPhail, Hugh D.
   * [Maps of Archangel District, Russia]
   * Michigan Historical Collections Topical Photograph Collection: Polar Bear Expedition
   * Moore, Joel Roscoe
   * Nordman, Ethol Fred
   * North Russia Expeditionary Force, Mapping Section
   * O’Dell, Frederick Charles
   * Odjard, Otto Arthur
   * Parrish, Silver
   * Piers, John J.
   * Polar Bear Association
   * Ramsey, Leon
   * Rasmussen, Roy Paul
   * Robins, F. George
   * Russell, Carl A.
   * Ryan, Charles Brady
   * Salchow, Hugo K.
   * Scheu, Clarence G.
   * Schicker, Louis E.
   * Shilson, Gilbert T.
   * Sibley, James B.
   * Simpson, Charles Althen
   * Skellenger, Kenneth A.
   * Smith, Gordon W.
   * Swihart Leon R.
   * Trombley, Edward
   * U. S. Army. American Expeditionary Force, North Russia
   * U. S. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th
   * U. S. Army. Signal Corps
   * Ward, Lee J.
   * Whyte, Malcolm K.

   * Books, Serials, and Broadsides

USA Photos:
http://www.gwpda.org/photos/ust2.htm
#1- Large photo of Company 1, 339th Infantry "Return From Russia:
http://www.gwpda.org/photos/bin12/imag1158.jpg
#2 :  US 339th Infantry convoy between Archangel and Berezinski, 18 Jan 1919:
http://www.gwpda.org/photos/bin10/imag0968.jpg


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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2006, 05:14:37 PM »
Here is the list of Americans who served in the Polar Bear Expedition to Russia to fight the Bolsheivks:

http://polarbears.si.umich.edu/index.pl?node=browse%20by%20%3A%20individual%20name&lastnode_id=272
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2006, 05:19:07 PM »
Americans who landed at  Archangel with the 339th Infantry were found on this page showing "browse" and the following is one of he subjects of  military units serving:
http://polarbears.si.umich.edu/index.pl?node=browse%20by&lastnode_id=441

   *
         o
               + Canada. Canadian Army. Field Artillery Brigade, 16th.
               + Canada. Canadian Army. Field Artillery Brigade, 16th. Battery, 67th.
               + Canada. Canadian Army. Field Artillery Brigade, 16th. Battery, 68th.
               + Canada. Canadian Army. Field Artillery Brigade, 16th. Headquarters.
               + Michigan. National Guard.
               + United States. Army.
               + United States. Army. Ambulance Company, 337th.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Battalion, 1st.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company A.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company B.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company C.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company D.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company E.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Company F.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Headquarters.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Medical Corps.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Medical Detachment.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Supply.
               + United States. Army. Engineer Regiment, 310th. Train.
               + United States. Army. Field Hospital Company, 337th.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Battalion, 1st.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Battalion, 2nd.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company A.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company B.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company C.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company D.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company E.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company F.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company G.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company H.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company I.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company K.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company L.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Company M.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Headquarters Company.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Medical Detachment.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Supply Company.
               + United States. Army. Infantry, 339th. Supply.
               + United States. Army. Infantry. Machine Gun Company.
               + United States. Army. Michigan Infantry Regiment, 1st (1861-1865). Company B.
               + United States. Army. Signal Corps.
               + United States. Army. Transportation Corps, 167th.
+ United States. Army. Transportation Corps, 168th.
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2006, 09:31:54 AM »
See Pvt. Casmimer Nowak, Co. B  310 Engineers, 85th Div, US Army:
http://pages.prodigy.net/mvgrobbel/photos/nowak.htm

with other links to other personal stories of the Polar Bear Exp.
#1-
http://pages.prodigy.net/mvgrobbel/photos/polarbearstories.htm
#2
Huge list of photographs of the 310th Engineers which you can see and enjoy:
http://grobbel.org/pbma/photos/310th/album.htm

On this site you will find the following photo of Brig. Gen. W. Richardson who took over the command of Stewart in April of 1919 with the 310th Engineers....  He's in the sleigh.



Richardson's photo was found in the Alaska State Library collection.
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2006, 10:36:08 AM »
Michigan Infantry Regiment, 1st, Co. B :
>>Although it did not fight as a unit in World War I, its regiments campaigned in France and Russia. Custer Division Soldiers fought and died at Lorraine, St. Mihiel, Marbache, and in the Meuse-Argonne. In a little-known but fiercely fought campaign against the Bolsheviks in northwest Russia, the 339th Regiment, under Colonel George Stewart, distinguished itself against heavy odds and in severe Arctic conditions. The contributions of the "Polar Bear" Regiment are represented by the rainbow colored battle streamer which hangs from the Division colors, the blue and red flag which is carried opposite Old Glory and to the left of the Army colors by today’s color guard.<<
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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2006, 01:14:20 PM »
In the section FINAL CHAPTER, the thread about Did Wilson's 14 point plan  affect on the Allies and how it may or may not have directly or indirectly caused the execution of Nicholas II:

http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php/board,22.0.html
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