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Offline Zecharia

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2009, 07:35:54 PM »
How many know that there were American Troops in Russia who were sent to fight the Bolshviks during the Revolution and Civil War?

I'd like for this thread to be dedicated to these Americans.

I'd also like to learn alittle about the American involvement in the campaigns against the Bolsheviks.

Next to me I have the memoirs of a Private First Class Donald E. Carey who was from  Custer, Michigan, 12th Co.,  3rd Batt.  [p. 7] who with his group left  for Camp Mills then  under the flag Co. E. 399th  Infantry sailed on the HMT (His Majesty's transport) Northumberland, which had been docked in Hoboken, N.J., on 21 July 1918 9  [p. 25].  Reached England on 3 Aug. 1918.  Boarded the  HMT Nagory [p. 37],  a merchant ship that usually traveled between England and India and left port on the [27th Aug]  27th of Aug..

"Our American Expeditionary Force consisted of the 339th Infantry regiment; 1st Battalion, 310th engineers;  337th Ambulance Company; and 337 th Field Hospital Company, all under Col. George E. Steward, U.S. Army, commanding officer of the 339th Infantry."

With Carey's ship the Nagory were thee others , the Somali, Tydeus and the Czar plus a small convoy of four or five small British vessels.  In all there were about 4,477 men of all ranks detached from the 85th Division on the Nagory, Somali and Tydeus.

They took "A zigzag course ...across the North Sea,", to the Norwegian Sea and around Norway to Barents [sic] and into the White Sea... [pps 39-41] across the Dvina Bay and up the Dvina river.... passed Archangel and stoped on the east bank of the Dvina river at Smolny.  On 5 Sept Carey and the others stepped off the gangplank onto Russian soil.

FIGHTING THE BOLSHEVIKS, The Russian War Memoir of Private First Class Donald E. Carey  US Army, 1918-1919.



AGRBear




I found a similar story on this web page:
http://www.theyearindefense.com/land_forces/when-americans-fought-the-russians

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #61 on: December 28, 2009, 04:23:05 AM »
American??? only pro-forma or for their interests.

Would you like to explain more fully as to what it is you're trying to imply/clearify/identify/add???

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My answer is in book by Anthony Sutton (see thread about Trotzky).

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #62 on: December 28, 2009, 04:59:47 PM »
Can you just give us a sentence or two to explain to what you are referring to in Sutton's book?

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2009, 05:03:26 PM »
Zecharia,

When reading the various accounts,  one can quickly learn that the USA was weary of war and leery of getting involved with what was happening in Russia.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #65 on: April 05, 2010, 10:37:09 AM »
while not American, this site explains the involvement of Australians in the Russian Civil War on the side of the White Army

http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/north_russia/journal.asp

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #66 on: April 07, 2010, 09:45:52 AM »
Because so many objectionable links exist in the web, I am requesting that posters offer a brief description of the links they are recommending and explain why. If we find they are anti-Semitic, for example, and the poster has not so identified it, we will assume they are trying to promote just that and take appropriate action.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #67 on: April 08, 2010, 07:23:44 AM »
I thought that not only did I explain the link but that it was self explanatory if you read the URL

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #68 on: July 18, 2010, 02:48:46 PM »
Because so many objectionable links exist in the web, I am requesting that posters offer a brief description of the links they are recommending and explain why. If we find they are anti-Semitic, for example, and the poster has not so identified it, we will assume they are trying to promote just that and take appropriate action.

This would be appreciated.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #69 on: July 18, 2010, 04:17:21 PM »
what part of
this site explains the involvement of Australians in the Russian Civil War on the side of the White Army
 is hard to understand

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #70 on: July 18, 2010, 05:14:06 PM »
You've sparked my interest.

  I was not aware of the Aussie's part. 

Perhaps you'd like to start a thread about them?  It would help your data being the main interest and prevent it  from getting lost in this thread about Americans fighting
the Bolsheviks in Russia.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #71 on: July 18, 2010, 05:45:27 PM »
that might be a good idea but it is 1 40 am here so it will have to wait until tomorrow.  But it is an interesting story

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 Suomi here,
I'm new, and find the posts & entire web-site refreshingly intelligent.
Some time back, I read a post on US forces sent to N. Russia 1918-1919.
Of particular interest was a post with the picture of PFC Carey, US Army (Ret.), & his memoir "Fighting the Bolsheviks".
I've a friend who is close to Carey's family.
This friend gave me something the family gave him many years ago:
His Dog Tag.
The Tag is thick aluminum, & one side has "Donald E. Carey U.S.A., 2051687" stamped into it.
The other side Carey used a hammer & sharp pin (or brad nail, etc.) to carefully tap in: "Co.E., 339 IR"
Six degrees of separation...
Respectfully, Suomi.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2014, 12:42:25 PM »
A person sent a personal message to me, without any words.
I'm very new; perhaps I don't know how to retrieve it here.
Any registered user may contact me using my g-mail in my profile. (g-mail is my student mail site)
Have a nice day to all!
Regards, SUOMI.

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Re: Americans Fought Bolsheviks in Russia
« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2014, 01:05:37 PM »
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