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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2004, 02:24:53 AM »
I think it's highly probable that she made it up. There is absolutely no evidence of this, except AA's testimony.

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2004, 04:19:53 AM »
Actually there is more than her word on this-see my biography of Felix for further details-witnesses recalled her fleeing in terror from him when left alone, and he himself was acting.  Before simply dismissing it as something she made up, it's best to look into the issue.  I suspect the truth lies somewhere between AA's claim and Felix's denial-she always tended to exaggerate things to the worst effect, while Felix never abandoned his tendency to lie to suit his own ends.  He probably said something to her that she took as a threat-and that would be entirely in character for both of them.

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2004, 08:45:58 AM »
Thank you, Greg, your book was one of the ones I read the account in. You told both sides, and I believe Kurth did too, but unless I'm missing something Lovell only told Anna's version.

As his biographer, don't you think this action would be out of character for Felix? It seems to be from what I've read in your book, Lost Splendor, and even Maria Rasputin's book. He was never one to get vicious and attack anybody. Even in the murder of Rasputin he was scared, layed back, and even ended up fainting. I don't doubt at all she ran out of the room for some reason but it might not have been exactly the way she told it. But as you say, we probably can't totally believe him either.

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2004, 10:25:10 AM »
I think that that whole situation was absolutely charming. They were both such eccentric people!

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« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2004, 06:18:50 AM »
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Thank you, Greg, your book was one of the ones I read the account in. You told both sides, and I believe Kurth did too, but unless I'm missing something Lovell only told Anna's version.

As his biographer, don't you think this action would be out of character for Felix? It seems to be from what I've read in your book, Lost Splendor, and even Maria Rasputin's book. He was never one to get vicious and attack anybody. Even in the murder of Rasputin he was scared, layed back, and even ended up fainting. I don't doubt at all she ran out of the room for some reason but it might not have been exactly the way she told it. But as you say, we probably can't totally believe him either.


Annie-I have no idea whether Felix did or did not do something along these lines-as I wrote here and in my book-I think the truth lies somewhere between the two versions.  But, no, such action would not have been out of character for Felix-in reality he was clever, charming, and deadly-and many episodes in his life show that he willingly attacked people (not physically) with a viciousness that is absent from his own memoirs.  You have only to explore his role in egging on his brother Nicholas's liaison with Marina Heyden and pushing them toward disaster to realize how dark a person he really was.

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2004, 05:21:53 PM »
No way! It had to have been that crazy Felix; up to his old tricks again.  :D

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2004, 05:55:05 PM »
Dude! She mad! she many times run on a rooftop naked, i heard this with my own ears [it was on the History on damend] .

JM do you really think Anna is the Grand Duchess?

Plus Felix didn't get close to her. He didn't try to kill her. even i well not get to close to an insane woman.

In the early 1920;s she tried to kill herself! if anyone trys to her , it would have be herself.

[if anyone get upest from reading my message,.. 'sorry' but thats what i think]

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2004, 05:58:22 PM »
In their prime I think both would have been formidable.

Perhaps a case of "chose yer poison"?!   ;)

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2004, 06:05:28 PM »
I always found it VERY strange that Anna ran on top of her roof naked :o--does anyone know why? :P ::)  I know, it's probably a really dumb question. ::)

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2004, 06:13:25 PM »
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JM do you really think Anna is the Grand Duchess?


At one time I thought it was possible -- but not plausible. As of right now; I don't really know where I stand. I don't think of AA as Anastasia, but I also don't think of her as FS. I'm just going to keep an open mind! But I don't have any serious reservations about the DNA.

I do get mad when people belittle AA and her case however.  >:(


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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2004, 06:27:32 PM »
Gee, I have called upon to help calm down "eccentric" ladies [and not a few gentlemen] running around naked in the streets, perhaps the roof is not so different?
[well, this is San Francisco, after all!]
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« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2004, 06:30:31 PM »
Eccentric people are hot.  8)

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« Reply #27 on: September 01, 2004, 06:50:11 PM »
JM- "eccentric", naked little old ladies are far from "hot".
 Far from a pretty sight.  [the same with little old gentlemen, except maybe to the little old ladies?] Somehow, I doubt that was what was on AA's mind however.
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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2004, 07:03:31 PM »
Ah, you misunderstood me. I meant "hot" the same way as I would mean "cool." For some reason, saying "hot" instead of "cool" is what I do now. I wasn't using it to describe the attractiveness of eccentric people.

Eccentric old people are just awesome. I'm sorry, but there is something funny about an older person that has gone a little wack. Maybe that is why I like AA so much. :-/

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Re: People Who Knew the Imperial Family and Anna Anderson
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2004, 07:10:53 PM »
I see your point. I rather like them as well. They can be a "hoot".
But I never had an affinity for AA. Nor a dislike, just never interested in her one way or another.
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