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Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« on: April 10, 2005, 11:29:03 AM »


   Was Tomislav the bastard son of Gen.Zivkovic and Queen Marie ?

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2005, 12:43:18 PM »
No,he was not!His father was King Alexander I and he liked Tomislav the most of his sons!

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2005, 01:02:24 PM »
Although,he(King Alexander I) had illegitimate daughter Elena who was born before his marriage and was very well treated in the family!

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2005, 11:08:38 PM »
Are there pictures of Tomislav's  wives by any chance ?
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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2005, 12:28:32 PM »
Marc, could you mean "Rose" Kennedy, the matriarch of the Hyannis Port clan ?
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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2005, 12:44:08 PM »
Small mistake-Linda Mary van Dyke!

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2005, 12:45:20 PM »
It seems this doesn't work  :) so I will write like this van D-y-k-e

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2005, 06:25:32 PM »
Ahhh...... you just have to love those filters sometimes!

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2005, 07:27:42 PM »
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This is a rare picture of the King Alexander I smileing,so I assume he would not smile and be so happy with his illegitimate son...


Hes not illegitimate.

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2005, 05:46:36 AM »
Well,that's what I said!King would NOT be happy in the picture with illegitimate so of his wife!

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2005, 05:47:36 AM »
I wanted to write son!  >:(

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2005, 12:28:47 PM »
Yes, well, I would like to point out to you that any children born of his wife would have been legitimate. It is unfortunate that the terms "bastard" and "illegitimate" are thrown around so very carelessly in this context. "Illegitimate" is a precise legal term. By law in most countries, the issue of a wife in a marriage is by definition legitimate. None of Mignon's children born during her marriage could be illegitimate in a legal sense, and that is where the term would apply. Some countries provide the presumed father a means of challenging this legitimacy, but even today, it is not commonly used.

I believe you are speculating that Tomi could have been biologically fathered by someone other than Alexander, but even that would not have made him illegitimate. And, I respectfully request that if you must use this term on this part of the forum that you clearly mark such use as speculation or gossip.

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2005, 05:49:02 PM »
Marie (Mignon) of Serbia/Yogoslavia was not overly interested in men so I find it hard to believe, based on all I have read, that any of her children were not fathered by Aleander I of Yugoslavia/Serbia.

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2005, 10:19:43 PM »

 Sorry by the especulation,but,she was lesbian according to the book by Ricardo Mateos Sainz de Medrano.

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Re: Prince Tomislav of Yugoslavia
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2005, 03:49:14 PM »
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 Sorry by the especulation,but,she was lesbian according to the book by Ricardo Mateos Sainz de Medrano.

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What is the title of this book and what language is it written/published.  I have never heard this tale before.

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