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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #180 on: December 13, 2009, 08:23:00 PM »
I think Sisi was not "hot" for men. After she caught VD from Franz Josef, she shun physical contact with men. Although she reunited with her husband to beget Valerie, her other "alleged" affairs seem to be more affairs of the heart than physical.

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« Reply #181 on: December 13, 2009, 10:43:51 PM »
Yes...I know that. But I didn't know that Nene was "hot". That's weird for me. Of course, it could be true! I think that I'm a little influenced by bad sugary movies, in which Nene is shown almost as a stupid, without personality (yes..I'm speaking about the "Sissi" trilogy by Marischka...UGH! . These are pretty romantic movies, but totally untrue).

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« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2009, 07:23:37 AM »
Mathilde and Marie found  "outside" marriage what her husbands couldn't give. Helene turned to religion after her husband and two children's deaths and I think she found some kind of support in this priest, but I find hard to believe she was "hot" like her father who had several illegitimate children. Elisabeth liked to be admired by men, more the type of look but don't touch. As for Sophie, it seems her marriage was not happy but I don't know much about the character of her husband but maybe he was too boring  and serious for her??

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« Reply #183 on: December 15, 2009, 04:25:52 AM »
but if it really was lisi instead of sisi...than why would irma sztaray have written the name as sisi in her book? and in the other older books from corti?


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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #184 on: December 15, 2009, 10:41:20 AM »
but if it really was lisi instead of sisi...than why would irma sztaray have written the name as sisi in her book? and in the other older books from corti?

That's the point. Franz Joseph, Sophie, Ludovica, etc. - they all talked about "Sisi" in their letters.
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« Reply #185 on: December 15, 2009, 02:30:19 PM »
so then i guess that the discusion about wether her nickname was lisi or sisi is a bit pointless if the letters of her relative says its sisi...and its not from the movie


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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #186 on: December 15, 2009, 06:17:15 PM »
I think it all sprawn from a mistake, but adopted the nickname afterwards. It wasactually quite original "Sisi" than the more common "Lizzy".

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #187 on: December 18, 2009, 05:36:47 PM »
I think Sisi was not "hot" for men. After she caught VD from Franz Josef, she shun physical contact with men. Although she reunited with her husband to beget Valerie, her other "alleged" affairs seem to be more affairs of the heart than physical.

Sissi just had platonic loves like Andrassy or Bay Middleton, but really no more, in fact she disliked sex and was
frigid.
 About Helene it could be an unknown side of her character, it's true that sometimes we imagine them as other way
but I think that it can be possible.
Anything to say about Marie and Sophie....

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #188 on: December 18, 2009, 06:50:04 PM »
Both Mathilde & Maria Sofia had affairs outside their marriages.

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« Reply #189 on: December 19, 2009, 04:05:53 PM »
And what about Sissi's brothers?? Were they like his father about having affairs?

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #190 on: December 20, 2009, 11:23:22 AM »


Karl and Marie
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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #191 on: December 22, 2009, 10:50:54 AM »
Lovely photo!!! ;-)
They look very happy together!!! I would like to know if he was happier with Marie of Braganza
or with his first wife

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« Reply #192 on: December 22, 2009, 11:22:16 AM »
Lovely photo!!! ;-)
They look very happy together!!! I would like to know if he was happier with Marie of Braganza
or with his first wife

I think he was happy with both of them. Sophie died young and Karl was 7 years a widower, before he married Marie.

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« Reply #193 on: December 22, 2009, 11:32:38 AM »
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« Reply #194 on: December 22, 2009, 02:08:25 PM »
Was a real pity that Karl Theodor lost his first wife, but happily he could be happy with Marie.
I'd like to know if the eldest brother was happy with Henriette Mendel, I'm sure that he loved her
to accept commit a morganatic marriage