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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2005, 05:17:19 AM »
Really,GDElla?  :P I took it somewhere from the web(really don't remember) as a portrait of the Alencons!What do you think,who might it be?By the way,you are absolutely right about the fashion of the time...I didn't think about it until now!Thanks

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« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2005, 07:40:06 AM »
I have two options of who the woman in that portrait could be 1) Queen Louise of Prussia or 2) Princess Auguste of Bavaria who married Eugene de Beauharnais
I, myself, am thinking there is a more possibility that it could be Princess Auguste of Bavaria

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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2005, 08:37:00 AM »
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I think the "glass piano" Alexandra was also Abbess of the Noble Ladies of St. Anne. I wonder if an autopsy was carried out, to find out what gave her this notion ?


Who were the Noble Ladies of St. Anne?

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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2005, 10:09:33 AM »
I found what I was looking for, the portrait of Alexandra hangs in the Galleries of Beauties in Nymphenburg Palace, her father had a quite a fondness for female beauty.

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2005, 10:17:12 AM »
Hello Bluetoria, the only thing I could find about the noble ladies of St. Anne, there was one) an Order of St. Anne, which is a decoration that the Kingdom of Bavaria gave and two) there is an convent of St. Anne in Augsburg, Bavaria

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2005, 10:22:43 AM »
This is how it reads in Burke's: ALEXANDRA Amalie, Abbess Chapter of Noble Ladie's of St Anne in Munich and Wurzburg.  I think I seen this mentioned before in connection with other Catholic royal and noble ladies but really do not know if it is/was an actual convent for them.
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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2005, 10:32:50 AM »
Thank you Joseph & Robert for the information. I wonder if she had any responsibilities with them. I read today that she would only walk sideways through doors for fear of knocking against them & shattering herself.  :-/
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2005, 10:36:22 AM »
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I found what I was looking for, the portrait of Alexandra hangs in the Galleries of Beauties in Nymphenburg Palace, her father had a quite a fondness for female beauty.


I read that he used to take visitors around his 'gallery' but that his wife avoided it.  :-/

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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2005, 10:38:12 AM »
Sounds suspiciously like a place to fob off royal spinsters and other ladies of that rank who might have a lack of social assets ? [like someone who swallowed a glass piano, perhaps ?].
Also cruel & flippant...
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2005, 10:46:46 AM »
Ah well...if you're being cruel & flippant I'll re-add my original post that I removed...yes she might have made a good Choir Mistress in the 'convent.'
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« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2005, 11:32:53 AM »
You are welcome Bluetoria :) Ah the saga continues in the gallery of Beauties, there was a story in the Joan Haslip's book The Lonely Empress, that Ludwig the 1st really wanted to go up in a hot air balloon with the Empress Eugenie that was pretty amusing, since Ludwig I think was in his seventies :P  Two words, poor Alexandra, I really feel bad for her

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« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2005, 11:37:47 AM »
Yes, Joseph, you're right about Alexandra - I'm not laughing at HER just the notion...(sorry!)

I feel a bit sorry for Ludwig I because, notwithstanding Gallery of Beauties, he had been a faithful & loving husband for many many years & had done a great deal to improve the lives of the people in Bavaria (including building public libraries etc.). It was only when he met Lola Montez that his life went into decline. He, an older man, making a fool of himself with some jumped-up little gold-digger...everyone could see it but himself. It was that which eventually led to his downfall. It's a shame.  :-/

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« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2005, 01:00:52 PM »
Hi Bluetoria, need not to worry, I know that you weren't laughing at her :)  I do agree with you, I feel sorry for Ludwig, he did great things for Munich and for Bavaria.  And then Lola appeared, in which I am not going to start with that subject at all.  Moving on, I am curious about Sissi's paternal grandfather, Duke Pius, are there any portraits of him?  I have not come across any of him yet.  

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Re: Empress Elisabeth's brothers and sisters - pictures and information
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2005, 09:03:00 PM »
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Really,GDElla?  :P I took it somewhere from the web(really don't remember) as a portrait of the Alencons!What do you think,who might it be?By the way,you are absolutely right about the fashion of the time...I didn't think about it until now!Thanks


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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2005, 10:06:50 PM »
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Ludovica suffered from such terrible headaches that she could not bear anyone even to touch her hair. I wonder if there was some kind of inherited 'brain' problem (apart from all the previously discussed theories of the effects of such much in-breeding.)


I'm going to toss a theory out there about why Ludovica got such terrible headaches. Since all the girls appear to have long & luxurious (therefore very heavy) hair, perhaps the weight pulled her neck out of place and caused her to get migraines as a result. I know that when my hair gets long enough, I get more migraines because of the weight. They stop once I get it cut and go to the chiropractor. And when I get migraines, I don't want anyone touching me because it's torture. Maybe it was the same for her.