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Offline Ally Kumari

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #495 on: March 12, 2009, 01:26:47 PM »
And everything SO natural! :) especially the unexpected appearance of the children :) No, Iīm really glad to be able to hear them.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #496 on: March 13, 2009, 01:49:37 PM »
I  It was super to hear them speak, and Kyril had very little accent that I could hear! Unlike Queen Mary who I do not think looks like her voice, Ducky really does 'look' like her voice to me....very Lady Bracknell- ish to me...I think she had a very 'handbag' voice!





Kirill to me sounds more English than his wife does. Her voice is a very odd blend: there are some Russian inflexions when she speaks her kids' names (as you might expect!), some British elements, but a very strong German underlay, especially when she says the phrase "All over the Vorld".

The different perceptions of this on just this thread show why it's so hard to get a consistent idea of the accent of many dead royals, especially Queen Victoria's children and grandchildren! One can understand in very practical terms why most Russians described Ella as speaking in a German accent whereas many called her sister's voice "English".
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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #497 on: March 13, 2009, 04:47:24 PM »
Janet, I agree about the disparity in accents of QV's grand children! It is most interesting to see that the Edinburgh girls spent most of their formative years in England, yet having a Russian mother may have given some, like Ducky a subconscious lilt in that direction. The guttural edge in her voice is rather interesting too! Was it not the Edinbughs who had the gruesome German Governess and tutor? I seem to remember reading about incidents involving these two unpleasant figures in Zeepvat's QV's family....I shall be able to check this next Friday when my precious goodies finally arrive from storage! Perhaps I am wrong on this and it was another branch of the family!

Anyway, I wonder if with a German mother, the Connaught children may not have had quite inflected English accents or if their German may have been instead, whilst the Hesse sprogs having grown up in Germany and spent quite a lot of time in England may have had inflections that differed too! Listening to Willie 'grouching' about America's entry into World War One...I was rather struck by how English he sounded, though his intonation made it clear he was not a native to my ear anyway!

As to the Wales children, Georgie sounds thoroughly english as would be hope! But having a Danish mother whose accent was well known to have remained audible till her dying day  I wonder if any of the children picked up tit bits of her accent! It is a most fascinating topic!

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #498 on: March 13, 2009, 06:08:47 PM »
Yes, it was the Edinburghs who had the German Governess and Tutor. I believe this was described in Marie of Romania's memoirs.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #499 on: March 14, 2009, 02:29:17 PM »
Yes old English was a bit high pitched. One only needs to hear early recordings of the present Queen to see how far the English tones had changed through the years.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #500 on: April 27, 2009, 11:30:47 AM »
There is some great information and pictures of Victoria Melita (including one rather peculiar one of the sisters in bathing suits and their motherīs pearls after the distribution of Marie Coburgs inheritance) available in a Spanish biography of her sister Baby Bee by Ana de Sagrera. The book is called "Ena y Bee En defensa de una amistad". I donīt believe that it is available in English - and unfortunately I have no scanner to share any pics with you...

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #501 on: April 29, 2009, 08:04:19 PM »
I think this may be a little off. I beleive all members of the Romanov's supported him, with the exception of GD Nicholas, GD Peter, & his son. In the book Once a Grand Duke, Grand Duke Alexander spells out why GD Kirill was head of the family.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #502 on: May 09, 2009, 01:26:03 AM »
Portrait sketch of Kira of Russia:


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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #504 on: May 14, 2009, 01:01:18 PM »
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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #505 on: May 14, 2009, 05:42:15 PM »
Very nice Svetabel. Thank you for posting them.

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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #506 on: May 18, 2009, 11:36:36 AM »
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Re: Grand Duke Kyrill, his wife Victoria Fedorovna and children
« Reply #509 on: June 20, 2009, 02:47:03 PM »
Victoria Melita


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