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Reply #240
« on: July 26, 2010, 09:47:13 AM »
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I think there was documentation. There was a picture of the elleged lover in the book. They do not go into too much detail on the baby girl born to Thyra though. It is doubtful that Thyra ever saw her first child again...
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« on: July 26, 2010, 12:08:13 PM »
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had the child been a boy, the issue would have been even more unpleasant. A main and long term purpose of royal famililes is inheritance and claims to inheritance. The last thing that VERY fiscally self-indulgent families (and corporations Smiley ) want is anyone in the picture who has not been pre-chosen to be there. Since sons are more in line with the hereditary laws/rules within the royal families, Thyra's first born girl was probably a bit of a relief to those who wanted nothing to do with the child.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 12:09:48 PM »
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Plus, is there firm and solid evidence that the father of the child actually took his own life, or.........
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Reply #243
« on: July 26, 2010, 12:56:50 PM »
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Yes. The evidence is there, although most researchers stop short of getting in touch with the girl's family. While the fact is confirmed, they did not want to dig further to reveal what happened to her. The only thing that is known is that she lived a long life.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 01:55:47 PM »
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Was there any evidence that the alleged father of Thyra's illegitimate daughter commited suicide when he found out what Thyra went thru? It mentioned it in the documentary but no mention of any evidence.


Yes, the man believed to be the father of Thyra's daughter, Vilhelm Marcher did kill himself in 1872.  The question remains of what the reason for his suicide was.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 01:56:26 PM »
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I just bumped up these pictures from earlier in this thread.

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Not much is known of Thyra's illegitimate daughter, is there? is there a photo of the child's father? I forget his name but I do know he killed himself shortly after it's birth and after having a very heated conversation with King Christian (not a very good mark for Christian I must say)....
Vilhelm Marcher in 1871. 


And Thyra in 1871.

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« on: July 26, 2010, 02:02:36 PM »
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A thread on Thyras illegitimate daughter.
http://forum.alexanderpalace.org/index.php?topic=995.0
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« on: July 26, 2010, 04:09:49 PM »
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still wondering...was there ever any real and valid evidence the young man took his own life or did the powers-that-be take care of him?
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« on: July 26, 2010, 04:48:47 PM »
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Yes, he died by hanging himself the night between the 4 and 5 January 1872 in his room at the military regiment where he was an officer. A report was made the next day that said that he without a doubt had killed himself. It was something that his family had feared and expected for some time.
The report states that he had been depressed for some time and was unhappy about his appointment as aide-de-camp to the minister of war.

Appearantly he had left a letter to a brother-in-law but the letter dosn't exist anymore.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 05:22:01 PM »
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hmmmm. interesting and seems plausible. But 'things happen' when powerful people don't want inconvenient people lingering around. If he was disgruntled and had had a tough meeting with the king, the fear of the family would have been that he'd make his problems very public, which the king and his innner circle would not tolerate or risk.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 05:33:00 PM »
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No, I don't think anyone killed him off to hide his relationship with Thyra. According to the story he became ADC to the minister of war after his talk with Christian IX and left the court. He died several months later.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 05:38:15 PM »
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I would love to think he died because of his lost love for Thyra. I don't think they were allowed to meet again after the story of the pregnancy broke.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 05:54:31 PM »
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Well, it's anybodies guess as to the reasons he killed himself. His father died shortly before and this appearantly also broke his spirit.

As to the story of Thyra's pregnany and proof, this is what Bo Bamsen wrote in his book. "The story will probably not be fully resolved before access is given to the correspondance between Christian IX and King George I." He himself did not present any kind of real sources in his book, only circumstantial evidence.
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« on: July 26, 2010, 06:00:43 PM »
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I think the leak came from inside the Danish Royal Family, as they were the first to admit to it later on...much earlier than the Hannoverian side.
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« on: July 27, 2010, 06:54:56 AM »
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The child abandonment story is quite sad and exemplory of the horrible morals the royal families often exibited when it came to those "who are not are kind". Shame on Christian for throwing out his daughter's first born. Shame on Thyra for not saving her child. Shame on the entire band of conspirators who crafted the plot and lies to cover up the child abuse. And shame on them all for directly or indirectly having a hand in the ultimate suicide of the father. There is no bright spot or anything to be proud of in this story.
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