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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2009, 12:26:52 AM »
Why would you think the British Royal Family would have any part of a restoration of a Russian monarchy? [there is no "English" royal Family, BTW]
 But, of course this sort of move would be entirely up to the Russians themselves. Outside influence simply would not be tolerated.
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2009, 02:58:27 AM »
The second any other Royal Families get involved publicly (which they will NOT) the whole debate will be muddled even more than what it is now.
This should and will be left to the Russian Governement,Church and people.
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IofJ, I think GD Maria has  apartments in the Novodivechy complex, does she not?
 As for Putin, perhaps not as bizarre as one might think; I was reading  today that he is possibly descended from an ancient aristocratic family, older than the Romanovs and more Russian than them- the Putyatins. Quite interesting, I shall follow this report up for sure.
 As for a restoration- there is no throne to restore, and no mechanism to create a new one in the current Russian constitution.
No, I dont think she does Robert, or at least I havent heard of it, but I will enquire.
Ask for V.Putin beeing of aristocratic desent, so is my cat, and yours...,   :)
 but I dont think he would want to set himself up as Tsar, better to be a Tsar maker, rather than a Tsar!
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2009, 03:50:18 AM »
IofJ, I think GD Maria has  apartments in the Novodivechy complex, does she not?
 
No, I dont think she does Robert, or at least I havent heard of it,

I would be equally surprised if she had a residence in the Novodevichy convent.

Ask for V.Putin beeing of aristocratic desent .... but I dont think he would want to set himself up as Tsar, better to be a Tsar maker, rather than a Tsar!

Not to forget that the title Царь "Tsar" assumed a lesser designation, whereas the title Император "Emperor" was the correct title.

Nikolai II was the Emperor of All the Russias, and he was also Tsar of Georgia etc.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2009, 03:54:46 AM »
Thank you,
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2009, 04:04:35 AM »
... that the English Royal family would be the best to decide whom, and in partnership with them to ensure stability

No British monarch would ever entertain such a notion nor would any prospective Russian monarch seek foreign intervention about its State affairs.

The very concept of Sovereignty dictates one's exclusive right to rule within one's own territory.



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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2009, 04:07:44 AM »
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2009, 03:31:13 PM »
Why would you think the British Royal Family would have any part of a restoration of a Russian monarchy? [there is no "English" royal Family, BTW]
 But, of course this sort of move would be entirely up to the Russians themselves. Outside influence simply would not be tolerated.

LOL, quite! Yes they are all related so "english", was incorrect...

So then, to whom can one attribute the restoration project of russia?. One might surmise quite a considerable dedicated group.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2009, 03:35:22 PM »
... that the English Royal family would be the best to decide whom, and in partnership with them to ensure stability

No British monarch would ever entertain such a notion nor would any prospective Russian monarch seek foreign intervention about its State affairs.

The very concept of Sovereignty dictates one's exclusive right to rule within one's own territory.



not intervention. assistance when required, as they themselves recieved from our end at times, when requested.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2009, 08:24:34 AM »
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So then, to whom can one attribute the restoration project of russia?. One might surmise quite a considerable dedicated group.
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not intervention. assistance when required, as they themselves recieved from our end at times, when requested.
Only the Russian people can restore the monarchy. Whether or not the British royal family approve of who becomes the Emperor (if it were the Romanov's) if such an event occured is irrelevant. What do you mean by assistance?

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #99 on: November 07, 2009, 07:57:25 PM »
I would suggest that one could set up a monarchy in Russia as a corporation.  The corporation could elect a Tsar from the Board of Directors, sell shares, buy property, built palaces and charge  visitors to come gawk at them.

 It worked for Disney, so why not a new monarchy park in Russia or anywhere.  You'd be surprised what people will pay money to visit.

Rides on the Tsars train, eat a Tsarist Russian dinner at the restaurant, buy T-shirts at the shops, cruise on the Standart, pony rides for the kids,  a children's village on an island, the possibilities are endless.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2009, 09:23:17 PM »
Why not? The Windsors have done it....
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #101 on: November 08, 2009, 10:27:08 PM »
I see the conversation is climbing to its usual dizzy levels of inteligence and competence!
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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #102 on: November 09, 2009, 06:05:20 AM »
Ha! True, and well said...(must be time to chew on a mintie)..ahem...

However.....more than anything else....in what way is this supposed personage going to truly be a Leader?

The best Leader is one who leads by example...
Who understands, truly understands what the people need in terms of health, wealth and happiness with a good solid spiritual foundation...and has experienced a full life and even possibly experienced just how it feels to live a life of poverty and, succeed in life, despite the overwhelming odds.

Who can be a Talleyrand with just a dash of Courland as well, might be a good thing too.

Next question, that possibly may require a thread of its own:

What is the people's vision of the Russia of the Future?
What do the people want?
What do the people need in terms of everyday happy existence?
How can all the people of Russia team together to each and every one make a difference for their country that they love so much?
What sort of life do they envision for them and their children of the future?

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #103 on: November 09, 2009, 07:50:38 AM »
Tutsi, I think (?) the OP is talking about a constitutional monarchy. In which case, the Monarch would serve as a figurehead - the embodiment of the nation.

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Re: How likely is Russia to become a monarchy again?
« Reply #104 on: November 10, 2009, 12:49:48 AM »
May I have a mintie please?
Yes a constituitional Monarchy seems to be the ideal one!
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