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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2008, 12:49:45 PM »
Another fascinating article on customs of dining during the reign of the last Tsar with descriptions of tables, times, menus, etc of meals, attempts by Count Fredericks to change servings at Livadia, Count Benckendorff's control of cellars:

http://www.ng.ru/saturday/2006-06-16/16_tzar.html

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2008, 03:44:19 PM »
An article of the book Medicine and Imperial Power in Russia of further information on the health and eating habits of the Court including Nicholas II. A fascinating detail is that Alexandra was allergic to floral scents. Gardeners cultivated varieties with no smell such as at Livadia where white roses were grown under the bedroom windows.

http://kremlin-9.rosvesty.ru/news/59/

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2008, 05:04:44 PM »

Aloha all!

I think that is a fascinating bit of trivia about Alexandra being allergic to floral scents!

I wonder how she dealt with that since we see so many pictures of her picking or around flowers - I'm thinking especially of lilacs, which have such a strong scent - or maybe they were specially grown with no scent?

Just another great bit of minutiae about the IF!

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2008, 08:02:50 PM »
The book Medicine and Imperial Power in Russia:
http://www.rg.ru/2008/03/14/anons.html

The press conference last March included archival documents and illustrations not included in the book. It would be interesting to read the expanded part relating to floral scents. Along with the whole book!

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2008, 09:58:30 PM »
Article on the plumbing within the palaces with the changes that were made after numerous episodes of food poisoning and infectious diseases. In 1904 in the Alexander Palace, Pasteur filters were installed "...Для того чтобы обезопасить царскую семью, переехавшую в 1904 г. из Зимнего дворца в Александровский дворец Царского Села, там полностью переоборудовали водопроводную сеть. Более того, все раковины во дворце, откуда брали питьевую воду, были снабжены фильтрами Пастера, состоявшими «из небольших цилиндров (вершков 9-10 высоты) с пористыми фаянсовыми трубками, проходя через которые вода под напором освобождалась от механических примесей»..."

http://www.mgzt.ru/article/508/

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2010, 02:48:47 PM »
great thread
lets keep it going

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2010, 08:48:23 AM »
Its a pity this thread has fizzled out.
Where did the water used by the Palace come from ? Were there fresh water springs ? Normally diseases as typhoid, typhus etc were water borne. That is why they installed the Pasteur filters probably. The Winter Palace was particularly bad. In its time I think it probably was quite a festering old building, with thousands of people running around, bad sewerage, plumbing  etc. The food and kitchens must have been quite dodgy.
 

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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2014, 04:45:43 PM »
great thread
lets keep it going

(I don't know if this is the place to post this; the monitors can move it to a more appropriate thread.)

The names of meals may have been discussed elsewhere on the Forum already, but just to bring to your attention a certain inaccuracy which has crept into some of the translated accounts which have been appearing in print recently.

Zavtrak — from the Russian word, zavtra, "tomorrow" — in the context of the Imperial family’s daily schedule does not mean "breakfast", as it does in modern Russian usage.

At that time at Court zavtrak was lunch, and it was served at one in the afternoon.

It could be a simple family meal, or a more formal luncheon on the occasion of a Romanov celebration or a visit of foreign royalty or important dignitaries.

See A. A.Volkov’s memoirs:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/volkov/8.html
Chapter 8

He writes that the Emperor "received reports from 10 o’clock until luncheon, which was served at 1 PM."
In the original Russian, Volkov had written "zavtrak".

That explains why the members of the Imperial family often record rising in the morning, attending to various tasks, or accomplishing certain errands, etc., and only then they mention having “zavtrak”. If zavtrak is translated as breakfast in these instances, it makes no sense.
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Re: Food, Wine and Meals
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2018, 11:30:58 AM »
Insight into dinner conversations with Nicholas II and Empress Alexandra in 1906

https://winterpalaceresearch.blogspot.ca/2018/04/a-lunch-in-alexander-palace-tsarskoe.html

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