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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #240 on: August 12, 2005, 06:26:53 PM »
i read the royal diary's books!
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #241 on: August 12, 2005, 06:58:39 PM »
I had never looked at this thread before, but I find it fascinating....all the many ways we were drawn to the Romanovs....

In my day, there were no Royal Diary books, animated movies, or Internet.  There was one thing: the library  (and a few old movies).

I remember first seeing one of those famous pictures of the tsar and his family in my 6th or 7th grade history book.  You know, one of those haunting images of the Tsar, Tsarina, Alexei, and the 4 lovely girls all dressed so beautifully.  The brief story told about them in the book and expanded upon slightly by my teacher was bone chilling.

History has always been my primary interest, and at that time, my mother was working on her graduate degrees at the university.  Evenings, I would wait in the college library for her classes to end.  I would do my homework, and then spend hours with my nose buried in books.  Here I soon discovered the world of the tsars and European Royalty.  Early on, I discovered the story of Anna Anderson and I have followed that story most of my life.  I devoured all the books I could and of course soon came across Queen Victoria and her brood.

One thing that greatly interested me and still does, is the often elaborate family tree charts contained in many of these books.  I started then collecting books on royalty and still do.  

Now I teach History (though not European) and work on my own familiy's genealogy....
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #242 on: August 13, 2005, 11:43:46 AM »
First it started with the movie,but I was only six at the time.

Then I read the Diary books.But in fifth and sixth grade I was really into Greek & Roman Mythology so that didn't last for long.

Reading has always been a joy,but I have always prefered fantasy and history above all else.

My eight grade history teacher Mr.Obot is responsible for my renwed interest in the Romanovs.It was the second day of class and we were talking about government systems.I think I said something about communism being evil.He showed me a book that stated that what Stalin and Lenin did was very different from the original system Marx proposed.

Also on the page was a paragraph on why Nicholas lost power.I did more research and rediscovered this love.

I like alot of different things.I like comic books,Harry Potter,Star Wars,and most recently Tolkien.
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #243 on: August 14, 2005, 09:06:19 AM »
Well, a bunch of things. I have been interested in history as far as I can remember. In 1990, as you know,  there were some turbulent times in Europe - the Eastern block fell. I was 17-18 by then and naturally the events sparked and interest in me. What had Russia been before the Soviet Union?

Another thing was that I had heard a name been mentioned here and there: Rasputin. Who was this person and had he ever lived? If so, certainly in the middle ages, I thought. Ha! I nearly fell of my chair when looking the man up in an encyclopaedia. He was connected to the last tsar and had lived in the same century as me! :o

I went to "Nikolaj" in the encyclopedia, and when I read about the fate of his family, it was like the history literally leapt of the page and hit me right in the chest. What drama, what a tragedy!!! And now I wanted to know more and more and more... I read everything I could get my hands on. Then I got hooked on Russian. The alphabet was beautiful, mysterious and oh, how I longed to learn the language! It took me a couple of years, then an opportunity came along. I started to take Russian lessons and something in me said "click". I really love going to Russia and being there. Some still think that I am nuts, but I really feel that this is a life-lasting love.

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #244 on: August 14, 2005, 01:39:18 PM »
The 1997 'Anastasia' cartoon. I've been interested in the Romanovs for about 2 years.

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #245 on: August 14, 2005, 03:22:12 PM »
 :) :)

The book and movie "Nicholas and Alexandra" by Robert Massie (the book, not the movie - I don't know who that was by  ;D).  

I probably saw the movie, that sparked an interest - and then the book-- and lo these many years later --- still hooked!   :D

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #246 on: August 18, 2005, 12:04:47 AM »
i was looking for the site of the cartoon movie Anastasia a year ago, i saw the first result: My Name is Anastasia, so i thought it was the one. when i started reading the contents i found it different from what ive watched; i learned that ive entered a wrong site but i kept reading, until ive reached the part that she (anastasia) was murdered with her family and i realized that it was a true story i was startled coz of this, thats when i started to become curious and search more about the Romanovs until now, and now the more i know them the more they become attached to me.
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #247 on: August 18, 2005, 02:36:55 AM »
Generally all existing films (cartoon "Anastasia", "Anastasia - the mystery of Anna", "Rasputin"), and books ("The mysteries of the Romanov family", "The Romanovs: The final chapter", biographies) about the family. It is also my longest fascination, I've been in love with their history for about six years now (I'm seventeen).

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #248 on: August 18, 2005, 05:56:34 AM »
Since my family is from eastern Germany, I'd grown up quite aware of Communism. Even then it had occured to me that Communism hadn't always existed. What had it come before it?
I found a book entitled Russia Under the Czars in my junior high school library. After that came Massie's Nicholas & Alexandra. Librarians didn't seem to mind loaning me books years above my grade level.
It took off from there.
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #249 on: August 18, 2005, 09:36:20 AM »
When I was a freshman in high school, (1964) I read a magazine article about Anna Anderson.  My history teacher brought the subject up and we discussed it in class.  

I always remember her saying that we shouldn't romanticize the Grand Duchess as a young and beautiful lost soul, because if she were alive, she would be 60 years old! (Remember this is long before DNA and many years before the fall of the Soviet Union)

She also jarred us out of our romantic notions of Sleeping Beauty type characters by reminding us that the Romanovs had cars and elevators and electric light!

Even at that time, I had begun to study the time period of 1860 though 1900.  It amazed me to put the different countries together in one time chart and compare what was happening in each place.

That QV was on the throne of England during our Civil War astounded me!

My family is of German descent and came to the US during the 1848 Prussian unification.  One story has it that they were tax collectors and came with a trunk full of tax money that didn't belong to them.  The names that came with them were von Jeager and von Geiger.
There is even supposed to be a "castle" somewhere in the old "East Germany".

Because of all of this history and historical interest, hearing about Anna Anderson, just increased my historical study period from 1860 to 1917.

I fell in love with Nicholas and proceeded to villanize Alix.
I still have my opinions, but hope they are now more moderate and with all of my reading, more fully informed. (I still think she was a foolish woman but I am no longer a "jealous" 14 year old.)

In 1979, I met a woman who was likewise interested in history, but she was more interested in British history because she is related to General Gage  on the British side of the American Revolution.

In November of 1980, she and I began to write an historial novel about the two "look alike" cousins, Tsarevich Nicholas and Prince George.  Four hundred and eighteen pages and a whole lot of reaearch later, we finished our book titled Love's Royal Moment.

Dell Publishing was briefly interested and did send back our draft for more work, but twenty five years later, the manuscript languishes with no one to read it except our families and friends.

One of my favorite things to do is try to imagine what crucial event in time could be changed to prevent the slaughter at Ekaterinburg or even the long road that took the family there.

How far back would one have to go to insure that the Romanovs were not overthrown in such a way and that perhaps that Lenin and the Bolsheviks would not come to power.

Sorry for such a long post, but I want to include one last thing.  During the 1990's I worked with a Russian woman who had imigrated just after the fall of the Soviet Union.  I posed the question to her, "Do you think history would have been different if Lenin had not died so early in the revolution?"

Her answer.  "I have not yet met an American who has ever asked me about Lenin.  Why do you ask?"

Our conversation went on from there.



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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #250 on: August 18, 2005, 06:12:50 PM »
I got interested in the Romanovs when I read Nicholas and Alexandra, by Robert Massie, about 15 years ago.  Since then I have  been  collecting books on the subject and now I have about 150 of them, plus movies.

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #251 on: August 18, 2005, 09:02:58 PM »
You are amazing, Amelia! 150 books? And movies? May you quote the list of books and movies? I would like to know them all!!!  :)

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #252 on: August 22, 2005, 06:16:40 AM »
I must be of Bob A's vintage, because I well remember my first introduction to the story was the same as his: finding "I, Anastasia'  on the shelf in my  elementary school library and being enthralled by the story (I think I was in about 7th grade at the time). I went through quite a "Russian" phase, reading all the novels, history etc. that I could find -- LOVED "The Brothers Karamazov."  Since then have regularly cycled back to my interest in things Russian, about  every decade or so; joined a choir at an Orthodox church for awhile in my graduate school days and had Russian friends off and on.. Some 3-4 years ago I discovered Massie's second book   and followed that up with everything else of recent publication that I could get from the library. The history, the forensics, the human interest -- there's so much that makes this family's story grab you in a visceral way. The incredible abundance of detail -- the photos, diaries, letters -- make them come alive in a way that is rare for that period.

The complaint is sometimes made that millions of people died horribly in those days (and continue to do so) so what is the point of obsessing over these particular people?  I think it's our human limitation to be unable to really comprehend the suffering of millions -- we can only grasp the enormity of human cruelty when it is personalized for us, in lives we can relate to. Strange to say, I think what draws us to the IF (at least in a way) is their ORDINARINESS --  in contrast to the glitter of their titles and worldly affluence they (in contrast to many frankly weird  celebrities of our own day) are unpretentious,  very "real" folks whose concerns, values and cares as people were not that dissimilar to our own. We feel like we would have liked to know them as friends or relations -- so we care about their fate in a very personal way. This kind of empathy is at the root of compassion and the desire to make the world a better place.   Far from minimizing the suffering of millions, an interest in the story of the Tsar and his family opens the door to understanding and dealing with it.

The dramatic irony is another powerful factor -- from hindsight we can ponder many hypothetical possibilities - if only Nicholas had taken this into account... if only Alexandra had realized... if only the  family had seized an opportunity to excape ...if only...it's so easy to see how things "might have been" different.

I don't remember if I first considered the AA story a likely one -- I was fascinated with the whole idea, though. Given that we lack proof what happened to two of the imperial children, I am always willing to consider the possibility that someone MIGHT have escaped, though I deem such an eventuality unlikely in the extreme.  I wish they'd do the DNA tests on some of those claimants to give a definite answer yes or no on some of them.

Oh well, after lurking on here for a long time I finally registered so that I could post a question. Will have to start a thread for that so I'd better get on with it.

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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #253 on: August 22, 2005, 12:41:01 PM »
Never thought I'd live long enough to share my thoughts, let alone my father's story, well some of it. One day, hope to write in length about it all. My father as many russians who went through the russian revolution, and survived, rarely spoke of it. I knew my father had in his teens, gone through the revolution personally. [He came from a well known family, on his mother's side. Prince/Count/Field Marshal Alexandre Italiski Suvorov]. My father had I believe, three sisters, of course his mother, father. My father was known at that time as a 'white russian'. He attended a white cadet military school. To make a long story short and not bore everyone, he escaped on the trans-siberian railway to Vladivistock. He secretly saw his parent's before he left Siberia. [He escaped from an early communist white prison, where he actually escaped from a firing squad. Perhaps many of you have located and or read about the early gulag prisons that the whites were thrown into. He used to tell the stories of hunger, and names being called out each day for being taken out into the courtyard to be shot. Age did not matter. My dad was only in his teens as a young cadet]. He escaped on one of the last ships to leave Siberia, before the communists took over the area, and arrived in the United States in the 20's. He knew many emigres from Russia, in fact lived with Rachmaninoff, Prime Minister Shulgin, Dudaroff, to name a few. I'm getting on in age, and slowly time is starting to take my memory as well.

There is much, to much saddness in all of his story, and our families to go into it all. Like many families, and individuals whose loved ones escaped, life in a new country, with a new language, etc., can be more than daunting. It can be even more daunting, if you come alone and have no records, no family, nobody.] I undertand how revolution can change a peoples, a country, a state of being. I now sincerely pray that no time in history again, shall such devistation, savagery, and unconscienable actions as transpired during the communist occupation of Russia, ever occupy any home or heart again. It's terrible to think brother fighting brother, etc., not just fighting, but killing each other.

Many families and individuals, not only became distanced from their families, loved ones, and never had closure, let alone allowed to stay to bury their loved ones, youth to elderly. Some never had the chance to know the outcome of what happened to their families.
Then there was of course properties, monies, etc. But nothing was more important than "life", and still remains that today.

I was named after one of the Tsar's daughter's, HIH Tatiana. Just to read all the stories on this site, brings it ever closer to my heart of not just the hopeless and terrible tragedy that affected the IF, but also the inspirational and wonderful courage of faith that they took with them to the very end. I'm proud to be of russian heritage, and to bear the historical linage of my father's ancestors. I cannot forget ever, even more, now that my name was chosen to remember a very brave young woman.

Many hearts, went through not only the revolution, but then the terrible trials of Lenin, Stalin, Beria, etc. Then there was the Starvation of the Ukranians in the 30's where millions more perished; then Hitler, the II War.

Most hopefully, Russia and the Russian peoples may one day claim their lives, their hearts, their homes in a free land that will speak and live with total peace and harmony.

Each morning and evening, I close with that prayer. I hope many more will join in it with me. Thank you for allowing me to share.
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Re: What got you interested in the Romanovs?
« Reply #254 on: August 22, 2005, 01:00:44 PM »
Dear Tania,


Thank you so much for sharing with us.  It is a wonderful story.  Do you still have family in Russia?  Have you ever been there? I was in St. Petersburgh 2 years ago and I intende to go back next year. You know, once you have been there, and if you are interested in the Romanovs it isa almost sure you want to go back

Amelia