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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2006, 06:36:18 PM »
Another new article:  http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article571677.ece

Catherine the Great's palace gets PVC makeover

By Andrew Osborn in Moscow
Published: 25 May 2006
The Mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov, has been accused of vandalism for steaming ahead with plans to build a mock Tsarist complex on the substantial remains of an 18th-century palace that belonged to Catherine the Great.

Construction of Tsaritsyno, a Gothic red-brick palace conceived as a summer residence for Catherine the Great, began in 1775 on the crest of a hill in southern Moscow. The estate was supposed to rival her magnificent retreats in St Petersburg but the palace was never completed due to architectural disputes and the death of the Empress in 1796. Until now Muscovites assumed it would remain that way.

But more than 200 years after its foundations were first laid, Mr Luzhkov is taking up where Catherine left off with a project that some see as a self-indulgent attempt to leave behind a historical legacy.

To general disbelief, the palace is being completed according to a design personally approved by the Mayor that bears little resemblance to the original.

An army of migrant workers from the former Soviet Union is rushing to do the Mayor's bidding fitting roofs where there were no roofs, erecting grand entrances, and replacing stone blocks with breeze blocks.

The palace's kitchens, a grand quadrangular structure called the Bread House, appear to be sporting white PVC windows. Brushing aside historical authenticity, the Mayor is also adding underground space to the palace to get some "added value" out of it.

He is in such a rush to get the new palace ready by 2008 that construction work began illegally at the end of 2005 without planning permission.

The project was initially welcomed by art historians who thought Mr Luzhkov would preserve the estate's substantial remains.

Now many fear the worst and believe Tsaritsyno is the latest victim of Mr Luzhkov's obsession with knocking down old buildings only to rebuild them from scratch with modern materials and "more practical designs".

"It [the new palace] is being built too quickly using many modern materials," Marina Khrustaleva,from the Moscow Architecture Preservation Society, said.

"Restoration is something that is done on the basis of what you can prove was once there, and is expensive. Here something altogether new is being built. I am afraid that Tsaritsyno will be spoilt."

The Mayor of Moscow, Yuri Luzhkov, has been accused of vandalism for steaming ahead with plans to build a mock Tsarist complex on the substantial remains of an 18th-century palace that belonged to Catherine the Great.

Construction of Tsaritsyno, a Gothic red-brick palace conceived as a summer residence for Catherine the Great, began in 1775 on the crest of a hill in southern Moscow. The estate was supposed to rival her magnificent retreats in St Petersburg but the palace was never completed due to architectural disputes and the death of the Empress in 1796. Until now Muscovites assumed it would remain that way.

But more than 200 years after its foundations were first laid, Mr Luzhkov is taking up where Catherine left off with a project that some see as a self-indulgent attempt to leave behind a historical legacy.

To general disbelief, the palace is being completed according to a design personally approved by the Mayor that bears little resemblance to the original.

An army of migrant workers from the former Soviet Union is rushing to do the Mayor's bidding fitting roofs where there were no roofs, erecting grand entrances, and replacing stone blocks with breeze blocks.
The palace's kitchens, a grand quadrangular structure called the Bread House, appear to be sporting white PVC windows. Brushing aside historical authenticity, the Mayor is also adding underground space to the palace to get some "added value" out of it.

He is in such a rush to get the new palace ready by 2008 that construction work began illegally at the end of 2005 without planning permission.

The project was initially welcomed by art historians who thought Mr Luzhkov would preserve the estate's substantial remains.

Now many fear the worst and believe Tsaritsyno is the latest victim of Mr Luzhkov's obsession with knocking down old buildings only to rebuild them from scratch with modern materials and "more practical designs".

"It [the new palace] is being built too quickly using many modern materials," Marina Khrustaleva,from the Moscow Architecture Preservation Society, said.

"Restoration is something that is done on the basis of what you can prove was once there, and is expensive. Here something altogether new is being built. I am afraid that Tsaritsyno will be spoilt."

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2006, 09:06:11 AM »
Does some knows that Luzkov ,mayor of Moscow has for project to reconstruct Kolomenskoye,the well-known wooden palace presented as one of the 8 most beautiful place of the world at the moment of the construction...

If everything goes as it has been announced ,it will be reconstructed just after Tsaritsyno,I'm impatient of seing how they would restore it...probably a fake like Tsaritsyno...it's a pity not to care for historical reality!But for the mayor what matter is to be more competitiv with St Petersbourg in the cultural field...

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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2006, 05:17:42 PM »
As for Kolomenskoye much is told on the ASSOCIATE BOARD OF ARCHITECTURE,CONSTRUCTION, DEVELOPMENT AND RECONSTRUCTION OF MOS[ch1057]OW website,however it lacks of objectiv point of view,(it's more focused on business than architecture problems...)nobody is perfect and probably not leaders in Moscow...-There too I'm biased...

http://www.stroi.ru/eng/default.aspx?m=36&d=37

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2006, 04:21:08 AM »



The park would be restored in his old appearance meanwhile 2008...

I'll post later views of the opera that is already open for concerts...

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2006, 05:08:57 AM »
Vassili,

thx for the pictures, and keeping us up to date about Kolomenskoye and Tsaritsino. I am still not sure what to think about it.

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2007, 11:48:17 AM »
Ipflo,

Cultural field in Russia is still decided by a circle of happy few,as a matter of fact we should be "blessed with joy" at the idea the spend money on restoring this,the reconstruction as for its mistakes and destructed that is led is controversial...

vASSILI who hopes that somebody could undertsand a little of what he said...

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 08:43:22 AM »
I found the image of the staue dedicated to Catherine II in the palace(it has just been restored),the statue has been  made by Alexandre Opekushina,sent to Armenia durind the soviet area ih has been gisted to Russia in 2003.



I've also found this interview of an expert of art on Tsaritsyne restoration as a fake(it is  in russian only)
www.rustunnel.ru/interviews/37.html

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2007, 09:16:45 AM »




Views of the restored palace

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #23 on: March 24, 2007, 09:28:59 AM »

Even if it is in russian ,it is interesting to discover how the restoration has renew the for the better I hope the buildings...
The more interesting must be the comparison between 19th century state,prerevolutionnal and photos dating back the soviet areas...





A museum of fashion has been open there.



http://www.tsaritsyno-museum.ru/restoration.htm


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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2007, 04:33:01 AM »
thx for the pictures

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« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2007, 08:06:38 AM »
Yes, thank you for the Pictures and please if you have any more post them.

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2007, 11:15:00 AM »
I fixed some of there...

So beautiful !

I hope one day this look more ancient...there is something peculiar :the reconstruction seems so new in fact ...it is stupid but this strikes me.

It would be fine if some could add shots of the interiors...this pledge for being magnificient!


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By the way,who are the two mens represented by this sculpture?

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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2007, 11:15:38 AM »
The architects V. Bazhenov and M. Kazakov. They built Tsaritsino for Catherine II.

By the way, there is an official website in English: http://www.tsaritsyno-museum.ru/English_vers/mainE.htm


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Re: Tsarytsino,palace in reconstruction
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2007, 07:05:16 PM »
I've spent an hour looking for shots of the interiors,here you can see the result of my search, I add also some pics of the works, of Luzkov presenting the palace  and many generals views of this gorgeous estate.