Claimant of Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaevich - Heino Tammet

Isn't the plural "testes"?   Testis (plural, Testes) meaning including Testis (plural, Testes) definition and what Testis (plural, Testes) actually means!
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Sorry, couldn't resist.

I am interested is all reports of "survivors" just because each has its own unique way of expxlaining what didn't happen.  Such mastery of fiction is quite interesting.  Such imagination!

There was a very informative myspace devoted to him, but I just checked, and it appears to be gone.

Like all of you, I too am an avid Romanov fan and often cruise the net in search of more and more info and research on the IF. I happened to stumble upon a Canadian journalist's story which claims that the Tsarevich Alexei did survive the execution and went on to live in Canada. I am sure some of you may have seen it and maybe it is just fueling the conspiracy theory but I felt it was worth a read - the link is at   http://www.npsnet.com/tsarevich_alexei/index.html. With all of the open ended questions on the DNA tests used
 this maybe worth a read. No theories, just a read I guess. The claims about the illness not being what everyone though it was, I thought made some sense. Anyone's got any more to add to this? Thanks 

I really don't think the story is worth a read.  We've gone over this many times.  And besides that, the Heirs' remains have been located, DNA ID and were buried next to his parents.

I suppose one could read it for humor in a macabre sense.

Thanks Douglas. What concerned me really was all the info on his blood related illness which the author said was not what we all thought it was.

This story has been going around for a long time.

All of the "survivors' are frauds as we know that all of the family and their retainers have been found.

Although it is fairly certain that the Heir had hemophilia, it would make no difference if he was misdiagnosed as he still ended up dead in that cellar in Ekaterinburg.

[no scientific laboratory evidence whatsoever]

Although it is fairly certain that the Heir had hemophilia, it would make no difference if he was misdiagnosed as he still ended up dead in that cellar in Ekaterinburg.

Sorry... but I just can't resist jumping in here....  ;-D

No matter what the latest DNA reports of both Drs. Coble and Rogaev may now say...

There is *still* no scientific laboratory evidence whatsoever of an X-linked blood disease in the Russian Imperial family.

... and yes...

It does make a very big difference if Alexei was, in fact, misdiagnosed.... because that same still totally unproven claim of the existence of Hemophilia in the Royal family line is now used to this day as the prime example of the basics of genetic inheritance in every medical and biology class that is now conducted at every university on the planet.

With no DNA proof whatsoever of the existence of an X-linked blood disease in those same Romanov remains, it is now very possible that every single one of the professors who are conducting those same university medical and biology lessons and the textbooks now used in those same classes are basing their lessons on a historically popular medical claim about Russia's Imperial family that is, in fact, totally false.

Cheers! ;-)
JK
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/109593773/ABSTRACT

Hello Mr. Kendrick.

You know that your opinions are always welcome here on the forum.

However, for those who have not followed this story as completely as you and the Forum Administrator have, please remember to let the new posters know that your opinions are just that.  Opinions.

The discovery of the remains of the Romanovs in Pigs Meadow and the reburial on those same remains in the Fortress of Sts Peter and Paul is the official and historical conclusion to all of the "myths and legends" of survivors.

The family and descendants of Heino Tammet have not yet given us confirmed proof of their story.  Until they do, it will remain a theory and an opinion.  There has been much "talk" over the years, but no one has yet produced proof that Heino Tammet was in any way related to the Imperial Family.

Please, do not start yet another contentious discussion about this "case".

Thank you,
Alixz

Yes, an opinion and case which can be conclusively proven if someone would just pony up the $1,000 for the DNA test on that tooth...we could know for certain if it matches the known Nicholas II and known Alexandra/Victoria line DNA, then there would be no contention.  But, that wouldn't be fun for JK anymore now would it??

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Hello Mr. Kendrick.

You know that your opinions are always welcome here on the forum.

However, for those who have not followed this story as completely as you and the Forum Administrator have, please remember to let the new posters know that your opinions are just that.  Opinions.

The discovery of the remains of the Romanovs in Pigs Meadow and the reburial on those same remains in the Fortress of Sts Peter and Paul is the official and historical conclusion to all of the "myths and legends" of survivors.

The family and descendants of Heino Tammet have not yet given us confirmed proof of their story.  Until they do, it will remain a theory and an opinion.  There has been much "talk" over the years, but no one has yet produced proof that Heino Tammet was in any way related to the Imperial Family.

Please, do not start yet another contentious discussion about this "case".

Thank you,
Alixz

You have mis-read my post.

I am not responding here in regard to the case of any claimant.

I am only responding to the statement made here by the poster Robert Hall that claims: "It would make no difference if he (Alexei) was misdiagnosed"

It most certainly does make a very big difference if Alexei's disorder has been misdiagnosed.

Even with the discovery of a small number of bone fragments in the summer of 2007, there is *still* no scientific laboratory evidence whatsoever of an X-linked blood disease in the Russian Imperial family.

That is not a statement of opinion.  It is a statement of fact.

It is also a statement of fact -- and not a statement of opinion -- that... without any DNA evidence an X-linked blood disease at all from any of the Romanov remains... it is now very possible that every single history, medical and, biology lesson at every university on the planet... and every single textbook that is now used in those same lessons...  is still teaching a historically popular medical claim about Russia's Imperial family that may, in fact, be totally false.

For that one reason alone, the still unanswered obligation of those very same investigators who have identified the Romanov remains to actually prove the suspected presence of a suspected faulty Factor VIII gene once and for all... is now more important than ever before.

In truth, this same question of Alexei's very possible mis-diagnosis more properly belongs in a discussion thread about hemophilia... and not in a thread about claimants.

JK

Mr Kendrick, with all due respect, you misunderstood the point of MY post- that is Aleksei died in the cellar.  No matter what his illness was, he was shot and killed there. He was not the first nor the last royal prince to have been diagnosed as a hemophiliac, he was not unique in that respect.  In any case, his illness is irrelevant to his fate- he died with his family. That is the only important issue in this discussion.

Mr Kendrick, with all due respect, you misunderstood the point of MY post- that is Aleksei died in the cellar.  No matter what his illness was, she was shot and killed there. He was not the first nor the last royal prince to have been diagnosed as a hemophiliac, he was not unique in that respect.  In any case, his illness is irrelevant to his fate- he died with his family. That is the only important issue in this discussion.

In fact, it is a diathesis... and not a diagnosis... but be that as it may...

No matter how or where Alexei had died... the alleged diathesis has never been proved by any form of scientific laboratory evidence. Those very same investigators who have identified the Romanov remains are still now obliged to actually prove the long-suspected presence of faulty Factor VIII gene once and for all.

That now very necessary DNA evidence of an alleged X-linked blood disease has *still* not been found.

... and making that point clear was the only reason for my post.

JK

I think I am with Robert on this one. It really does not matter as the poor lad still ended up butchered in a dirty cellar room along with his family and retainers and at least one innocent beloved dog. Thus bringing to an end the Imperial House as was and then the end of Imperial Russia. He was not the first and not the last to die at the hands of the communists but shows how brutal they were at that time. Thankfully all the remains have been found and they will lie together at rest.

If they ever check the DNA profile of the heir for the confirmation or otherwise of the alleged condition then so be it. But as we know the imperial lines in Europe suffered now and then form this condition and it given all the facts and on the balance of probability the same is for Alexis.

I think it is time to allow the poor boy dignity, respect and peace in death

Since hemophilia was diagnosed within the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha and then brought into the royal houses of Hesse, Hohenzollern, and Spain, why would Alexei then be suffering from any other kind of blood disorder?

None of his "cousins" had anything but hemophilia so why should he.

And if the books are wrong, why isn't that "tooth" being tested for DNA to prove that Tammet was related to the Russian royal family?  Why is it incumbent upon the researchers who found and studied the bones to prove their case?  Why is it not Tammet's family who should do the proving?

Just think of your place in history, Mr. Kendrick, if you were the one to show the world that Alexei did not have hemophilia and that every text we now use is wrong!