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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #135 on: May 05, 2008, 05:46:22 PM »
There is another documentary made on the life of Saint Elizabeth and is available in Russian and English.

http://www.firebirdvideos.com/videos/videosinrussian/stelizabeth.htm (Russian version)

http://www.firebirdvideos.com/videos/videosinenglish/stelizabethlife.htm (English version)

Has anyone seen this documentary?
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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #136 on: May 05, 2008, 06:23:11 PM »
There was a very interesting article about her in a Roman Catholic magazine in which it was written that she was the saint who most drew the different denominations together - her Lutheran upbringing, Catholic ancestry and Orthodox conversion combined the whole of Christianity and made her such an 'appealing' saint for people of many different Churches.  :D

Here is an article that appeared in a Catholic magazine about Saint Elizabeth and her convent: http://www.cnewa.org/mag-article-bodypg-us.aspx?articleID=3060

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #137 on: May 07, 2008, 08:13:54 AM »
There is another documentary made on the life of Saint Elizabeth and is available in Russian and English.

http://www.firebirdvideos.com/videos/videosinrussian/stelizabeth.htm (Russian version)

http://www.firebirdvideos.com/videos/videosinenglish/stelizabethlife.htm (English version)

Has anyone seen this documentary?

thank you so much for the links
i've never seen this documentary

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #138 on: May 31, 2008, 07:24:39 PM »
I still and always will believe Ella is a Saint!

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #139 on: June 06, 2008, 04:50:36 PM »
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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #140 on: June 08, 2008, 06:37:02 PM »
one more link
the video shows Pascha broadcast from the Convent of sts Martha and Mary and the church of st Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem (where repose the holy relics of the Grand Duchess)
http://files.tvspas.ru/Video/%d1%fe%e6%e5%f2%fb,%20%f0%e5%ef%ee%f0%f2%e0%e6%e8,%20%ee%e1%f1%f3%e6%e4%e5%ed%e8%ff/%cf%f0%e0%e7%e4%ed%e8%ea%20%cf%e0%f1%f5%e8%20%e2%20%cc%e0%f0%f4%ee-%cc%e0%f0%e8%e8%ed%f1%ea%ee%e9%20%ee%e1%e8%f2%e5%eb%e8%20(%d2%c2%d6%202008-04-26).wmv

this time you don't have to look through the "terrible" list of random cyrillic letters,
just click on the link above and the download process will start ( it is Windows media file)


Is there a second part to this video?

The video ends before the Pascha liturgy is yet to begin in Jerusalem.
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« Reply #141 on: June 11, 2008, 05:31:11 AM »
sorry, the second part does not exist. Since the aim of the video broadcast was to show live the Divine service at the Convent, and there is a two hour difference in time between Moscow and Jerusalem they could not show the parallel broadcast

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #142 on: June 11, 2008, 05:34:00 AM »
Indeed...One of my reason to covert to Orthodoxy was because of her inspiration...

i know many people who have chosen Orthodoxy because of the inspiration of the Holy Imperial Family and the Grand Duchess

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #143 on: June 12, 2008, 08:00:54 AM »
I think Ella lived her later life as more of an example of Orthodox faith than her sister Alix was.

The Empress was a very reserved person, but one should not think her less faithful to the Orthodoxy and help to the poor.
Only one glance, one study of her activity during the years of the first world war (the last years of life of Alexandra and her family)
will show you the Empress as one the most merciful tsarinas of the Russian Empire
I can not agree with you when you assert that in her later life Alexandra was less inclined to follow the canons of Orthodox faith.

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« Reply #144 on: June 12, 2008, 08:05:47 AM »
I think Ella lived her later life as more of an example of Orthodox faith than her sister Alix was.

For me Alexandra is the embodiment of true orthodox saint

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #145 on: June 12, 2008, 11:06:30 AM »
Alix had "pride" which is one of the most serious sins in the christian church. Remember only the meek will see our God ? Ella, after becoming a nun, became as meek as any other nun. If fact one of the revolutionaries told her "If more Romanovs are more like you, there will be no revolution !". She had just visted a sick woman and accepted a dirty cloth to wipe her face. Alix however remained as cold as ever (testimony by the guards at Tobolsk, where they were imprisoned).

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Re: Ella as a religious figure and her convent
« Reply #146 on: June 12, 2008, 10:31:00 PM »
An excerpt from 'The Way of Martha and The Way of Mary' by Stephen Graham, Macmillan, London, 1915 of his visit to the Convent of Martha and Mary c1914:

VII

AT THE CONVENT OF MARTHA
AND MARY

ONE Sunday I went to the convent of St. Martha and St. Mary in the Bolshaya Ordinka on the other side of the Moscow river. It is a wonderful institution, belonging to the new Russia and yet being part of the old, a young dainty stem with leaves sprung from the rugged many-wintered tree of the Russian Church. Like St. Vladimir s Cathedral at
Kief, its beauty lies not in any antiquity or ruin. It is a new institution ; it is served by young people ; and has new life, new interest, and ideals. It is the convent of which the Grand Duchess Elizaveta Federovna, the. widow of the Grand Duke Sergius, whose murder was contrived by Azef the Jewish agent-provocateur during the revolutionary period, is the abbess.

The remains of the Grand Duke were deposited at the shrine of St. Alexey, and praying there, the grief- stricken widow promised herself, her life, and her estate to God. The beautiful sister of the Empress found her way from desolation and the tomb to a bright and spacious and yet devoted life, and she was consecrated and took the veil.

One of the first deeds of her new life was to purchase a building site in one of the poorer parts of the city, and to have it consecrated for the building of a convent and churches. A temporary church was put up and services took place from the first. The first plans were realised in 1907 ; the sisterhood was already formed and had begun work by February
1909. The Grand Duchess is the abbess and there are about a hundred sisters. Every one is young, every one is active. No woman over forty can enter the sisterhood, no one also who is weak physically or likely to be unable to perform the arduous labours for and among the poor which the sisters impose upon themselves.

The convent combines in its ideal the imitation of both Martha and Mary. Each sister dedicates herself to " God and her neighbour." She would sit at Jesus feet like Mary, and be occupied with many things like Martha. But certainly the idea of Martha and service stands first in their minds. Their religion is the religion of good deeds. They visit, clothe, comfort, heal the poor, and all but work miracles, flowers springing in their footsteps where they go. They receive and consider thousands of letters and beggars. They perform work which is often left to the municipalities and Care committees in the West, but the work is much more fruitful since it is done in the Name of Christ rather than in the
name of reason. In some convents the sisters are divided into Marthas and Marys, and there is a question when a new one takes her place a Martha or a Mary? But in the Martha Marinskaya all have to be Marthas. Each sister has a specific calling and name, e.g. the letter-writer, the purchaser, the guest-receiver : there are medical sisters, church sisters, kitchen sisters, and so on.

The service in the convent church is open and free. All and sundry may go in. And yet necessarily one is in a way a guest, a visitor. It is a very gentle and delicate experience to stand on the stone flags of the wide church beside fifty or sixty maidens in white and avow allegiance to the same emblems, praise the same splendid Creator and God.

I came to the service, but I also wished to satisfy a desire to see the frescoes and wall-paintings by Nesterof. The rood-screen, the apse, and the sides have been painted by that great artist, and two or three of his most beautiful pictures are the surface of the walls.

There is a large picture, the whole width of the church, a presentment of Holy Russia at the margin of a birch forest ; plains and folding valleys and up lands and broad acres in the distance. In the foreground bright green grass thick with purple labiate
and yellow rattray, an opening in the forest, delicate silver birches on each side and tiny pine trees, seed lings of pine-trees. In the opening all manner of characteristic Russian " poor folk " gazing, praying, kneeling, crying. For a haloed Christ stands among the birch trees and receives all who will come to Him.

The Russian peasant believes that Christ wanders on his roads
the heavenly King
Our mother Russia came to bless
And through our land went wandering ;
and he is quite right, believing that. The thought,
almost by itself, constitutes the idea of " Holy
Russia."

The most beautiful picture in the church is the dedicatory Martha and Mary " The Master is here and calleth thee " * a panel in front of which stood a sister all in white like a statue, little candles in front of her, a stout six-feet wax candle beside her.

To be continued....
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« Reply #147 on: June 12, 2008, 10:32:20 PM »
Cont'd ...

A tall and portly priest with long hair, whimsical and gentle, took the service Father Mitrophan ; and he walked to and fro, now with the people, now behind the sacred gates. A score of sisters in black veils and with black crowns on their heads sang in the choir. A sister stood at a counter by the door and sold candles. A congregation of sisters, fashion
able visitors, peasants, working-people, and beggars grouped themselves miscellaneously in the wide, open, light-filled body of the church. Of course there were no seats. It was pleasant to be there ; there was good air, a fragrance occasionally of flowers, and a sense of young women in a certain mood towards God. We sang, assented, crossed ourselves, bowed. The sixty sisters all in white prostrated themselves, and there was a billowy flood
of white linen on the floor. And the black choir sang, gently, pitifully, sweetly, exaltedly, with pale voices. It was their church, their temple. They expressed themselves there as a maid expresses herself in her private room at home. The gentle Nesterof paintings pertained to them specially. They were chosen by them.

In the midst of the service in come the convent waifs, children of the childless, two dozen little boys in green blouses, two dozen little girls in blue frocks and drab pinafores. And they stand in the midst of the church. They are so small, they might be the children of dwarfs.

Father Mitrophan comes out to deliver his sermon, and we all move up closer towards the altar rails so as to hear him. He is higher than we, and looks a shepherd with a flock about him. A gentle sermon : " You have parents in the flesh, you have also parents in the Spirit. There are earthly families, there are also spiritual families ; worldly intercourse
and heavenly intercourse. Our parents bore us and then as soon as convenient brought us to the font to give us back to God. The parents were not present at the baptism because they were only parents of the flesh, but the guardian angels were present because
they were parents of the Spirit. To-day is the day of St. Afanasief and of St. Sergey, spiritual fathers, to whom we must look for guidance and love. What do they teach us ? Why, first of all, to do things, to work. What a worker was St. Paul, for instance,
writing fourteen epistles. We mustn t be lazy ! We shan t get anything without making effort. Fast day comes ; we say it doesn t matter much, we ll eat ordinary fare. It s time to go to church ; you say to yourself, * No, no, don t need to, and you take a stool and a book of church verses and sing to your self pleasantly and comfortably. No, no, it won t
do. The Fathers of the Church didn t go lazy like that, or where should we be. . . ." And so on, in a sententious manner and sing-song tone, nodding his head and pronouncing many of his dicta in a colloquial tone of voice like an old woman saying proverbs. He had an Orthodox voice. There is such a thing in Russia, a voice and manner in which the Church and the Church service are reflected. It communicates itself to the worshipper and is often a superadded grace of personality in a man or woman, a certain Byzantinism in expression, a hold ing oneself like a figure in a fresco.

Amen ! A crossing of ourselves ; the sermon is ended. The crowd about the altar breaks up, and we spread ourselves out in the fresher spaces of the church once more, and the pale singing of the black- robed choir recommences as the conclusion of the liturgy is sung. The sixty sisters prostrate themselves together in a billowy mass once more.
Worshippers cross themselves before the altar and go out. The Communion bread is taken and the service is over. The waifs march out ; we all come out.

It is good to have been at prayers with the sisters, just as if one had spent a few hours in perfect mood in a garden. It took my mind back to a morning in an immense London church when I came in late and was taken up and put in a seat just nderneath
a picture of the Virgin. At the Virgin s feet were armfuls of lilies. I had a sense, I have it now all flowers are flowers at the feet of the Virgin.

The full text:
http://www.archive.org/details/thewayofmarthaan00grahuoft

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« Reply #148 on: June 13, 2008, 06:56:54 AM »
I am so thankful that this quiet and beautiful information was posted. Just reading has brought me peace deep inside my heart. I felt so much a part of this gathering like the services of my childhood. I think I yearn to be amongst gentle peoples as this. Today's world is becoming more selfish more about 'me' and forgetting about the world around them. I am so thankful for Ella; she lives on thank God ! Goodness never dies.

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« Reply #149 on: June 14, 2008, 01:49:25 AM »
but the testimonies of the guards had only one aim - to blacken the Empress.
And almos ALL of the Romanovs were like Ella in their meekness, remember  Grand Dukes Paul, Dimitri, Nicholas and George executed at the saints Peter and Paul