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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2005, 10:10:45 AM »
I think it would be impossible to get to see all Ella's jewels. She divided them into piles. 1 to her family in Darmstadt. mostly to be part of her dowery, that she wished to return to her own family. 2. back to the crown. Most likely part of the crown diamonds given to her. 3. to her wards, Dimitri and Marie (son and daughter of Grand Duke Paval). 4. sold to finance the new nunnary.

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2006, 03:36:33 PM »
Hello did Ella leave any Jade rings...and did the rings get transferred to another royal family?

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The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 09:37:20 AM »
Ursula's exceptionally wonderfull site has an update on Grand Duchess Elisabeth's jewelry.

http://members2.boardhost.com/royal-jewels/msg/1192700755.html

http://www.royal-magazin.de/

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 09:18:00 PM »
So much is known about her emeralds, it was nice to see some information on some of her lesser known pieces. Knowing that her collection was so immense, it's a shame there aren't more photos of her in her glory--even the site sometimes contains photos of her not wearing the jewel being discussed--the emeralds definitely seemed to be her favorites. Since much of the jewelry was given away/sold both in 1908 and later by her heirs like Marie, probably little will be found out in the future.  :(
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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2007, 11:59:07 AM »
It's constantly frustrating that Ella, who is described as having such a lovely jewelry collection and was known to change outfits/jewels midway through a ball, is hardly ever photographed in them. I would love to see more of not only the collection but how she looked in them. She obviously took pride in them (witness the changing) so I don't think she would've been adverse to be photographed in them.


it's much the same with Mariia Pavlovna (the grand duchess Vladimir), don't you think?    i mean, she had this fabulous collection of jewelry, but she was always photographed wearing the same pieces....but gd dss Vladimir, at least, was photographed more often (it would seem).     it might simply  be due to their respective temperaments -- ie: gd dss Vladimir, while less attractive, was far more self-promoting (in a sense) & Ella was far prettier, and though very aware of her beauty, but was more reserved.

and/or -- both ladies knew where they stood & (to a certain extent) may acted accordingly....meaning:  both ladies were vain, but MP the e, may have felt insecure (re: her looks) & needed "validation";  Ella simply let her looks speak for themselves.

i'm just guessing, though.    :-)
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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2007, 02:45:07 PM »
Very well said brnbg,there may be some truth in your idea.If the Grand Duchess Vladimir was alive I would dare you to see her and call her insecure!I wonder if we would hear from you again?Perhaps from Siberia?Or you might be found unconcious covered with scratches from a tiara!
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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2007, 04:13:22 AM »
If the Grand Duchess Vladimir was alive I would dare you to see her and call her insecure!

are you kidding?  insecure or not, she was definately a formidable woman and, i would imagine, very capable of whithering any foe (including ungallant me!) with a steely gaze & a polite smile...   if anyone had ever been foolish enough to say anything like that to her (true or not), i'm positive they never survived the genteel & exquisite distruction she sent their way... ;-P


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Or you might be found unconcious covered with scratches from a tiara!

hmmm....

tiara = blunt instrument? 

i must say, being savaged with a tiara make for a much more entertaining re-telling than, say, simply getting into a fight... don't ya think!    i mean, how many people could say they'd been beaten-up w/ a tiara?   LOL


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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2007, 12:49:34 AM »
I think the Kaubach portrait maybe would be the one that Ella wore her aquramarine tiara. The color portrait does seem to be light blue stones... :)

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2007, 03:09:16 AM »
Posted by: brnbg aka: liljones1968
Could you rescan a photo of the  little Eagle?

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2007, 03:14:04 AM »
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had never noticed it before, and i've had this image for years.
but after i scanned it in again, and looked at the enlarged image, i noticed the Romanov Double-Eagle in her veil.
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Could you rescan this Photo... I don't see it? Thank you! 

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2007, 03:51:31 AM »
Was it the jewel of Michen or Ella we are talking about here ?  ???

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2007, 04:18:15 AM »
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had never noticed it before, and i've had this image for years.
but after i scanned it in again, and looked at the enlarged image, i noticed the Romanov Double-Eagle in her veil.
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Could you rescan this Photo... I don't see it? Thank you! 

here you go :-)

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2007, 05:03:23 AM »
I don't see the Eagle  ?  ??? Can you ?

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2007, 05:25:21 AM »
I don't see the Eagle  ?  ??? Can you ?

it's a stick-pin/hair-pin w/ the Romanov double-eagle.   she's using it to help secure the veil.

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Re: The Jewelry of Grand Duchess Elizabeth
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2007, 05:28:38 AM »
I thought it was a butterfdly in shape, but it can also be a double eagle I guess. too blury to judge... ???