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Offline Grand_Duke_Alexei

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Ella and her Siblings
« on: October 20, 2004, 08:19:55 PM »
I am currently reading the book, "The Life and Tragedy of Alexandra Feodorovna", by the Baroness Sophie Buxhoeveden, which is a really great book.  But I came across something odd in the book.  A chapter of the book titled "Childhood, 1879-1888", and this was written:

"The elder Princesses were fast growing into womanhood.  Princess Victoria and Princess Elizabeth (Ella) came out in 1881, but Princess Alix only heard echoes of their gay doings."

I think that when it says that they came out in 1881, that it is referring to their coming of age ball.  But with the use of the words, "...echoes of their gay doings", I began to wonder.  I have never heard of either of them to be gay.  Does anyone know what they mean by this and/or what years their coming of age balls where?
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 08:31:41 PM »
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"The elder Princesses were fast growing into womanhood.  Princess Victoria and Princess Elizabeth (Ella) came out in 1881, but Princess Alix only heard echoes of their gay doings."



I believe the use of the word gay in that sentence is supposed to mean happy,not homosexual. ;D
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 08:35:36 PM »
Gay was used to express happy, only until recently ( last 30-40 years) has it been used towards homesexuals

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 07:39:33 AM »
Okay, that is what I thought that it had meant.  The usage of words in the book confused me.  And that is a really great picture Olga.
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2005, 12:12:33 PM »
Which sister was Ella closest to?

I know from reading VMH's letters/correspondence  that Ella & Serge wanted Alix in Russia.

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2005, 12:44:04 PM »
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Which sister was Ella closest to?


Victoria, I'm sure. They were closest in age & shared a bedroom as children. Princess Alice's leterrs often describe their closeness to one another.  :)

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2005, 07:43:52 PM »
Does anybody have that photo of Ella and Victoria standing either side of their mother? It is a lovely one of all 3 of them, I dont think I have seen it on the boards.

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2005, 09:44:28 PM »
I think it's on here somewhere but

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2005, 09:45:32 PM »
I have to agree with BT--Ella and Victoria were the closest. They were the Big Pair to Irene & Alix's Little Pair. You see photos of Victoria visiting Ella and Irene visiting Alix but not really vice-versa.
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2005, 12:53:01 AM »
Isn't that picture, that is supposedly of Ella and Alice and Victoria, of Irene and Alice and Victoria?  "Ella" doesn't look much like herself...!

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2005, 04:08:40 AM »
Thanks for posting that beautiful photo!
And yes, I had never thought about it before, but now that I look at it "Ella " looks a lot like Irene!
I have always seen and read it identified as "Ella".

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2005, 06:05:59 AM »
Oh, I think it's Ella.  :)

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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2005, 12:32:04 PM »
It's Ella--Irene would've been much younger in comparison to Victoria.
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Re: Ella and her Siblings
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2006, 05:41:27 PM »
Does anyone know about what date Alexandra and Ella began to drift apart?

My own view.. for what it's worth... they were never really close! They really drifted apart during the early years of Nicholas' reign. Nicholas and Alexandra never really understood Ella's vocation - in fact they were quite sceptical about it. The difference of opinion over Rasputin was a symptom of this distance between the sisters, not a cause. When Ella went to Alix in 1916 to "talk about it" it was already much too late, which was why she was shown the door.
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