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AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« on: June 08, 2005, 08:40:58 PM »
Hi:

      Some historians claims that Anna Anderson knew most of anecdotes and little details about the IF, for she was always reading books in this issue. However, her supporters claims she couldn't do it for most of them were not published yet. But I'm this kind of person that never accepts things for other people said they are this way or another, so I made a little research in books that Anna Anderson could have read between 1920 and 1923 (Nevertheless I take this info with a grain of salt, for she was at Dalldorf in those times, and doctors and nurses must have noticed her "suspect" reading...She couldn't keep her books in secret).

  Here you have the list of books, anyway  ;D:

-Alexandra Feodorovna: "The letters of the Tsarina to the Tsar, 1914-1917" London; Duckworth, 1923.

-Bernstein, Herman: "The Willy-Nicky Correspondence" New York: Knopf , 1918.

-Botkina, Tatiana: "Vospominaniia o Tsarkoi Sem'ye" Belgrad. Stefanovich. 1921.

-Cantacuzene, Princess: "Revolutionary Days" Boston: Small, Maynard & Co. 1919.

-Dehn, Lili: "The Real Tsaritsa" Thornton, Butteworth.1922

-Deterichs, Mikjail: "Ubiistvo Tsarkoi Sem'i" Vladivostock: Military Academy Press" 1922

-Dillon, E.J: "Eclipse of Russia" London. Dent, 1918.

-Izvolsky, Alexander: "Memoirs" London.Hutchinson.1920

-Iliodor (Sergei Trufanov) "The Mad Monk of Russia". New York. Century.1918.

-Mouchanow, Marfa: "My Empress" New York. John Long.1918.

-Radziwill, Princesse Catherine: "Secrets of Dethroned Royalty" New York. John Lane.1920.

-Radziwill, Princesse Catherine: "Confessions of the Czarina" New York. Harper.1918.

-Vyrubova, Anna: "Memories of the Russian Court" New York.Macmillan.1923

Wilton, Robert: "The Last Days of the Romanovs" London. Thornton.Butterworth.1920..."

  Well; there is a lot of books that Anna Anderson could have read. However, most of them were in English, a language that AA was not supposed to speak in those times...Or she could speak it after all...There also are two books in Russian, but AA was not supposed to be able to read Russian... There were many books in the 20' about the Romanovs, anyway.

   And of course, she could have read some "Royal Magazines" even BEFORE the 20', that it was most likely:

-Fletcher, Richard: "Royal Mothers and Their Children" Good House Keeping. Vol 54, n° 4 (April 1912, pags,445-56)

-"The Czar and His Family" Munsey's. Vol.51. N° 1 February, 1914.

-Morris, Fritz: "The Czar's Simple Life" Cosmopolitan. Vol 23. N° 5 (September, 1902)

-Pelham-Clinton, Charles: "The Russian Coronation" Strand. Vol 11.1897"

  But, again...All this magazines are in English. Did you have any book or magazine name in German or Polish? If AA was FS they must have read them in those languages since she couldn't understand English, nor French...

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Re: AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2005, 10:10:28 PM »
Thank you RA, you did quite a good job with your research. I have no idea whether AA read any of those books, but I just found it interesting to see what had been written by that time. Again, thank you for your research.
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Re: AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2005, 12:05:03 AM »
Not all of them are in ENglish.  Some Russian, some were originally in French and I'm sure were published in German and other languages too.  The 1920s was Romanov mania.  Newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, etc were EVERYWHERE.  This is where I think Anna Anderson got a lot of her information, especially since the majority of it--like her saying N&A slept in seperate bedrooms--was wrong.

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Re: AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2005, 07:55:17 AM »
Oh very good point to bring up! Thanks for the list!

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Re: AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 01:25:36 PM »
If AA was FS then she read and spoke Low German not Russian, not English and not French.  Therefore, it seems to me that you need to learn what German books and magazines held information about the Romanovs.
ANASTASIA, THE RIDDLE OF ANNA ANDERSON  by Kurth p. 11:

"...the nurses thought  when they compared her features to photographs of the imperial family printed in cheap illustrated magazine.  There were many of these publications lying about the asylum in the library and on the tables, some of them dating from as far back as 1914, and others, more recent, recounting the sensational news of the murder of the Tsar and his family in Ekaterinburg.  One photographs of the Tsar's four daughters had immediately caught the nurses' attention.  They had looked at it very carefully, they had discussed it togather, and finally they had decided to force the issue:  they brought the magazine to Fraulein Unbekannt."

ANASTASIA, THE LOST PRINCESS  by Lovell p. 77:
"Clara had a revelation while leafing through the edition of the
Berliner illustrierte Zeitung.  The magazine featured a cover story, "The Truth About the Murder of the Czar," illustrated with picture of the Russian imperial family."
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Re: AA and the books about the IF.(1920-1923)
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 07:26:05 PM »
Thank you for you info, Bear! Actually, I posted the book list to show that AA must not have been FS, since she couldn't read French, nor English,and much less Russian (I didn't think she would be able to read cyrillic characters). And I suppose it's not accurate to said that most of these books "must have been published" in the early 20's, for we don't know for sure if they were. If someone here could understand German, maybe he or she could show a new list with German books (translated or not) about the IF. Perhaps the whole list was translated into German, but perhaps it was not like this. Well. My answer today is "I don't know".  ::)

        Thank you for your quotations of Peter Kurth's and Blair Lovell's books, Bear...Even if the last one is not always accurate.

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