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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2006, 06:37:33 PM »
I believe the Red Duchess is not the Duchess of Alba, but the Duchess of Medina Sidonia, dona Luisa Isabel Alvarez de Toledo y Maura (b. Estoril, Portugal August 18, 1936).

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2006, 08:07:46 PM »
The Duchy of Alba de Tormes was created in 1472 by King don Enrique IV of Castille (elder half-brother of Queen Isabel I) for don Garcia Alvarez de Toledo, Marques de Coria, Conde de Salvatierra and Conde de Alba de Tormes.

The title remained in the hands of the Alvarez de Toledo family until the time of the XIth Duchess of Alba (Maria Teresa Alvarez de Toledo d. 1755). Upon her death, she was succeeded as XIIth Duke of Alba by her son, don Fernando de Silva y (Alvarez de) Toledo, who died in 1776 and was succeeded by his granddaughter, dona Cayetana de Silva Alvarez de Toledo y Silva (1762-1802), she was the  child of don Francisco de Paula de Silva y Toledo (Duke of Huescar) and of donna Maria del Pilar de Silva, a daughter of the Marques de Santa Cruz and the Condesa de  Pie de Concha.

Cayetana de Silva, XIIIth Duchess of Alba de Tormes, was famous for her licentiousness and her myriad affairs, the most famous one being her entanglement with renowned Spanish painter don Francisco de Goya y Lucientes, who painted her several times.  She was a force to be reckoned with in the Madrid of the first years of Carlos IV's reign.  In 1775 Cayetana married don Jose Alvarez de Toledo y Gonzaga, the son of a distant relation, the Marques of Villafranca.  That fateful year also witnessed the first time Cayetana and Goya met.  She was not yet thirteen years old.  Their next meeting would not take place until a few years later.

The XIIIth Duchess of Alba died in 1802 without leaving any issue.  Her husband had predeceased her in 1796.

Cayetana's succcessor was her nephew don Carlos Fitz-James Stuart y Silva, Duke of Berwick, Liria and Jerica.  He became the XIVth Duke of Alba de Tormes.  He was the father of Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart y Ventimiglia, XVth Duke of Alba, who married donna Maria Francisca de PALAFOX Y KIRKPATRICK, Condesa de Miranda, sister of the Empress of the French.

Jacobo and Maria Francisca were the parents of don Carlos Fitz-James Stuart y Palafox, XVIth Duke of Alba de Tormes (1849-1901), who in 1877 married Maria del Rosario Falco y Osorio, Countess of Siruela.  They were parents of: Jacobo XVIIth Duke of Alba (1878-1953); Eugenia Countess de Teba (1880-1962) and Hernando, XVth Duke of Penaranda de Duero.

The XVIIth Duke of Alba was the intimate friend of King Alfonso XIII of Spain.  He married in 1920 Maria del Rosario de Silva y Gurtubay, Marquesa de San Vicente del Barco and heiress to the duchy of Hijar.  Their only child, Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart y Silva (b. 1926) is the present Duchess of Alba, XVIIIth title holder.

Cayetana de Alba was firstly married to Luis Martinez de Irujo y Artazcoz, a son of the Dukes of Sotomayor, in a multitudinous ceremony held in Sevilla on October 12, 1948.  They were the parents of six children:

Carlos Fitz-James Stuart:

                          XVIIIth Duque de Huéscar (Grandeza de España)

Alfonso Martínez de Irujo y Fitz-James Stuart:

                          Duque de Aliaga (Grandeza de España)

Jacobo Martínez de Irujo y Fitz-James Stuart:

                          Conde de Siruela (Grandeza de España)

Fernando Martínez de Irujo y Fitz-James Stuart:

                          Marqués de San Vicente del Barco (Grandeza de España)

Cayetano Martínez de Irujo y Fitz-James Stuart:

                          Conde de Salvatierra (Grandeza de España)

Eugenia Martínez de Irujo y Fitz-James Stuart:

                           Duquesa de Montoro (Grandeza de España)


Not that Cayetan de Alba's eldest son has chosen the last name Fitz--James Stuart instead of that of Martinez de Irujo.  This was done to preserve the Fitz-James Stuart name attached to the ancient title of Duke of Alba de Tormes.  In Spain one's name can be changed thus and a son can adopt the last name of his mother.

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2006, 09:46:44 PM »
Arturo is correct.  I think people tend to get the Duchesses of Alba, Medina Sidonia, and Medinaceli confused --I know I do.  The title "La Duquesa Roja" refers to Doña Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo y Maura, Duquesa de Medina Sidonia. She is a direct descendant of the admiral of the Spanish Armada, and like the Duchess of Alba has vast estates throughout Spain. 

She had strong socialist opinions and was eventually exiled by Franco but returned to Spain in 1976.  She has kept up her writing and has written several historical tomes. 

I think one of the pics of the Duchess of Alba posted above is actually Princess Irene of Greece (the Queen's sister). 

As for the Duchess of Alba, I thiink the best pic ever taken of her was by Avedon which Ursula has posted here
http://www.royal-magazin.de/spain/diadem-ansorena-bracelet.htm

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2006, 11:01:37 AM »
Here is Cayetana de Alba's descent from Cristobal Colon, Almirante del Mar-Oceano:

17. Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, XVIII Duquesa de Alba 1926-

16. Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, XVII Duque de Alba 1878-1953

15. Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, XVI Duque de Alba 1849-1901

14. Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, XV Duque de Alba 1821-1881

13. Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, XIV Duque de Alba 1794-1835

12. Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1773-1794

11. Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1752-1787

10. Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1718-1785

9. Catalina Ventura y Colón de Portugal, Duquesa de Veragua, Liria y Jerica 1690-1739

8. Pedro Manuel de Colón, Duque de Veragua 1651-1710

7. Pedro Colón, Duque de Veragua 1628-1673

6. Alvaro Colón, Duque de Veragua 1598-1636

5. Nuño Colón, Duque de Veragua 1568-1622

4. Alvaro de Portugal y Colón, Conde de Gelves 1532-1581

3. Isabel de Colón de Toledo, Condesa de Gelves d. 1549

2. Diego Colón, Duque de Veragua 1474-1526

1. Cristóbal Colón 1451-1506


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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2006, 05:30:50 PM »
Here is another interesting line shared by the Duchess of Alba and myself as descendants of Christopher Columbus (Cristobal Colon):


                                 Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, XVIII Duquesa de Alba 1926-

                              Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, XVII Duque de Alba 1878-1953

                            Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, XVI Duque de Alba 1849-1901

                          Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, XV Duque de Alba 1821-1881

                        Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, XIV Duque de Alba 1794-1835

                      Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1773-1794

                    Carlos Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1752-1787

                  Jacobo Fitz-James Stuart, Duque de Liria y Jerica 1718-1785

                 Catalina Ventura y Colón de Portugal, Duquesa de Veragua, Liria y Jerica 1690-1739

               Pedro Manuel de Colón, Duque de Veragua 1651-1710

            Pedro Colón, Duque de Veragua 1628-1673

          Alvaro Colón, Duque de Veragua 1598-1636

        Nuño Colón, Duque de Veragua 1568-1622

      Alvaro de Portugal y Colón, Conde de Gelves 1532-1581

    Isabel de Colón y Alvarez de Toledo, Condesa de Gelves d. 1549

  Diego Colón, Duque de Veragua 1474-1526

Cristóbal Colón 1451-1506

   Diego Colón, Duque de Veragua 1474-1526

    Cristobal Colón y Alvarez de Toledo 1523-1571

      Francisca Colón de Toledo d. 1616

         Josefa Colón de Toledo y Ortegón b. 1597

          Josefa Gabriela Paz de la Serna y Colón te Toledo

            Francisco Colón de Toledo 1646-1705

              Pedro Colón de Larreátegui 1695-1770 – DUKES OF VERAGUA y DE LA VEGA
              Felix Colón de Larreátegui
     
                Pedro Antonio Colón de Larreátegui

                  Isabel Colón de Larreátegui

                    Margarita Dávila y Colón de Larreátegui

                      Evarista Arana y Dávila Colón de Larreátegui 1803-1862

                        Eduardo de Beéche y Arana 1827-1875

                          Eduardo de Beéche y Argüello 1859-1936

                            Rafael Beéche y Cañas 1891-1982

                              Arturo Beeche Titzck 1916-1998
             
                                Arturo Beéche Lizano b. 1941

                                  Arturo Beéche Bravo b. 1965
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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2006, 06:41:21 AM »
Cristobal Colon is one of the reasons why I mixed up la Duquesa Roja e la Duquesa de Alba: THEY BOTH ARE INTERESTED IN CRISTOBAL COLON... (one of the others reasons is that I was so tired, so thanks again to Arturo and to Luke...)
 
la Duquesa de Alba because Colon is her ancestor, and also because she has so many documents about him (it is said that worldwide historians were asking for a gift of these documents to Spanish Archives) La Duquesa Roja because she wrote a book on Colon, as she has a theory (Years ago I saw a documentary on the subject: she also has documents from Medinaceli Archiv): she wrote that Colon DID NOT DISCOVERED american Continents... that these lands were yet well known of arabian captains and sailors... Also she is prayed to give her documents to an University or an Archiv to favourish storicals works.

Frankly, I like the red Duchess, but I think that her theory seems very feable, for many reasons. I agree that somebody before Colon had intuition of the existence of some lands or that Vikings boats could have sailed until North Islands near Canada.... But I have doubts when she says that arabian sailors did many many travels - before Colon - from Africa to America. If one knows some  meditterranean cities and ports and has studied what was ( and still is) the life in the mediterranean...  where not a secret remains hidden, where a spanish captain knows what occurs in Egypt or Venice immediately...  it is impossible. Maritime Mediterranean life (the backgroung of Colon) was  like a village - with also its own common language, la lingua franca...

The genealogic work of Arturo is really interresting;  :D - also its gives us a possibility to consider how many gifts the life gives us when we are conceived - but specially interresting are the names of the ancestors of Arturo , the ones focused and, I guess,  the others ones.

I am curious about the sons of Cristobal Colon: Diego, the Duke your ancestor WHO IS SAID to have had so many difficulties with the spanish crown for the inheritance and Hernando who wrote a book of geography.  I Know that Colon's family has had problems until the end of eighteen's century for the Colon's inheritance related to the contracts he signed with the spanish crown. THE RETURN OF CRISTOBAL COLON  FROM ANTILLAS IN CHAINS  and that 300 YEARS' CASE are'nt the signs of a scandalous ROYAL'S INGRATITUDE ??. :-\

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2006, 07:57:17 PM »
I have some more infromation here in my archive about the legal difficulties the Colons had with the Spanish Crown, which began with King Fernando V of Aragón and continued through par tof the reign of Carlos Quinto. 

I also have some information on the legal battle the Colon family had with the Berwicks concerning the inheritance of the Duchies of Veragua and de la Vega, although I do not have as much as I wish I had on it.

The male-line descent from Colón became extinct in 1578 when the Duke Consort of Veragua y de la Vega, Diego Colón de Toledo y Pravia died.  His wife, and first-cousin, Doña Felipa Colón de Toledo y Mosquera, 3rd Duchess of Vergua y de la Vega had died in 1577 without children.

Upon her death, the dual ducal title of the Colón family passed to don Nuño Colón de Portugal y Córdoba, second son of the Count of Gelves and a grandson of the late Isabel Colón de Toledo (d. 1549), an elder sister of the 2nd Duke of Veragua y de la Vega.  I have often times wondered why the Colón de Portugals got the ducal title and not other cousins like the Folch de Cardona y de Colón or the de Luna y de Colón, both lines descending from elder sisters of doña Isabel de Colón de Toledo.  However, that is how it was done.

The line of the Colón de Portugal held the dual ducal titles of Veragua y de la Vega until the lifetime of the IXth Duchess, doña Catalina Ventura Colón de Portugal (1690-1739), who had married in 1716 James Francis Fitzjames Srtuart, 2nd Duke of Berwick, Liria and Jérica.  James Francis was himself the son of the 1st Duke of Berwick.

The Duke of Berwick, James FitzJames, Marshal of France, was born at Moulins in the Bourbonnais, France, on August 21, 1670. He was the illegitimate son of Arabella Churchill and King James II. His mother was a daughter of Sir Winston Churchill, descended from the Councils of Anjou, Poictou and Normandy. His uncle was the famous John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough.

The Xth Duke of Veragua y de la Vega, Jacobo Francisco Fitzjames Stuart (1718-1785), faced a lawsuit from distant Colón descendants concerning the inheritance of the dual duchies.  This was begun by don Pedro Colón de Larreátegui (1695-1770) and later continued by his son, don Mariano Colón de Larreátegui (1742-1821), who in 1790 obtained a judicial victory against the Fitzjames Stuarts, causing them the loss of the dual duchies of de Veragua y de la Vega, which went to don Mariano and have thus remained among his descendants until today.

Mariano Colón de Larreátegui (1742-1821), Duke of Veragua y de la Vega, was a first cousin of don Pedro Antonio Colón de Larreátegui y Jiménez de Embrún, who in turn was the great-grandfather of doña Evarista Arana y Dávila  Colón de Larreátegui (1803-1862).  Doña Evarista was my great-great-great-great grandmother.

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2006, 09:23:29 PM »
Now that I have a little more time to continue this very interesting thread.  Among the present-day descendants of Cristobal Colon (Christopher Columbus) are:

The Duke of Veragua
Princess Christina of Bavaria (b. 1974)
Javier de Soto y Fitz-James Stuart (b. 1964) - exhusband of Isabel Sartorius, former girlfriend of HRH The Prince of Asturias as well as step-daughter of Princess Nora of Liechtenstein
Princess Maria Teresa of Bavaria
Princess Maria Cristina of Bavaria
Arturo Beeche Bravo
Octavio Beeche - Foreign Minister of Costa Rica
Eduardo Beeche - Governor of the State of Puntarenas, Costa Rica
Arturo Beeche Lizano - Consul General of Peru in Puntarenas, Costa Rica
Arturo Beeche Titzck - Consul General of Costa Rica in California
Luciano Beeche Titzck - Consul General of Chile in Limon, Costa Rica
Josette Altmann - Former First Lady of Costa Rica
Victoria Guardia - Costa Rican Ambassador to the Holy See
Rolando Lacle - President of the Senate of the Republic of Costa Ricaa
Manuel Jimenez Borbon - Publisher of La Nacion, Costa Rica's premier newspaper
Agustin Edwards Eastman - Publisher of El Mercurio, Chile's premier newspaper
The Duchess of Montoro
The Count of Salvatierra
The Marquess of San Vicente
The Count of Siruela
The Duke of Hijar
The Duke of Huescar
The Duchess of Alba
The Duke of Santangelo
The Duchess of Arion, Marchioness  de Ardales
The Duchess of Algeciras
The Marchioness de Valle de Paloma
The Countess of Castroponce
The Marquess of Villaviciosa
The Marquess of Valderrabanos
The Count of Villamonte
The Marquess of Torre Manzanal
The Marquess de Elche
The Marquess de Aguilar
The Countess of Odiel
The Duke of Penaranda
The Countess of Teba and Banos
The Count de Murillo
The Duchess de Luna

To name but a few...quite an achievement for a lowly sailor from Genoa!

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2008, 12:24:34 PM »
I was lucky enough to visit the Liria Palace a few years ago. The palace is opened to the public on a very restricted basis and the current wait list for tours extends itself several years.

When walking around the palace one can admire in awe the beauty of the Alba collections, and although none of the jewels are exhibited, the artwork, porcelain, documents and such that on display are simply stunning.

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2008, 11:19:18 PM »
Jose not the second picture as you mention...but the first.

That is none other than HRH Princess Irene of Greece and Denmark.

All the other images are those of my kinswoman the Duchess of Alba. And Eddie, I have also been to Liria. We had a lovely private party at the palace last year in May, the 70th birthday of Archduchess Helen of Austria. After a tour and cocktails at Liria, we all walked from the palace to a restaurant about 10 blocks away. It was a nice, warm, late Spring Madrid evening...I laughed silently as we walked to the restaurant and rebelers all around us enjoyed the night and atmosphere without realizing that members of the Habsburg, Törring-Jettenbach, Windisch-Graetz, Baden, Alba, Spanish, Ratibor families and friends walked among them. It was magical...one of the best nights ever!

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2008, 12:52:03 PM »
The British titles are illegal ! Her ancestor 1 Duke of Berwick (natural son of King James II & VII of UK) was attainted in 1695 and his honours became forfeited.

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Re: Dukes & Duchesses of Alba
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2008, 06:26:04 AM »
Does anyone know, if there are pictures of the children of "Paca", sister of Eugenie?

I once found one of  the son, when he was a child, but I lost it all with a PC crash. Does anyone know, where to look?
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Wedding of the Duchess of Alba
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2011, 02:48:36 AM »
Last wednesday Maria del Rosario Cayetana Fitz James Stuart ,Duchess of Alba,married her dear friend and confident
Senor Alfonso Diez Carabantes in a Ceremony at the Duchesses Duenas Palace in Sevilla.

http://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?zoektype=2&search=05-10-2011%20Seville

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Wedding of the Duchess of Alba
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2011, 01:22:00 PM »
Really, is ridiculous. A great show.

A great show,maybe.But the Duchess has been as eccentric as they come all her life,and still is...
Not bothered by the opinions of others,least of all her fellow Peers,she's always decided for
herself what to do or not.I admire her for that,not too many women do the very same....
The Lady has guts,and humor...
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