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Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« on: June 07, 2005, 01:15:26 PM »
Is already there a topic on the Neues Palais in Darmstadt?

Do you have pics? a plan?

Thanks so much  in advance

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2005, 05:50:38 PM »
In the Gedächtniskapelle - memorychapel - in Wolfsgarten are many commemorative plaques. Some of them are dedicated to the IF, other have only abbreviates of names. Who are these for?

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2005, 03:48:11 PM »
A new book is out about the "Neues Palais". This week there was a lecture about the book and Palais from the author in the Staatsarchiv in DA. Here the details:

Das Darmstädter Neue Palais - von Petra Tücks (Art Historian)

Verlag der Hessischen Historischen Kommission Darmstadt,

400 Seiten (Pages), price: €56.-


It shows alot of unpublished material like sketches, pictures, plans (thats what the newspaper writes)

Unfortunatly I coundn't go, the Darmstädter Echo announced it really late. But I definitly will have a look at the book. If there is a ISBN, I will post it here, as soon as possible


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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2005, 02:34:12 PM »
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A new book is out about the "Neues Palais". This week there was a lecture about the book and Palais from the author in the Staatsarchiv in DA. Here the details:

Das Darmstädter Neue Palais - von Petra Tücks (Art Historian)

Verlag der Hessischen Historischen Kommission Darmstadt,

400 Seiten (Pages), price: €56.-


It shows alot of unpublished material like sketches, pictures, plans (thats what the newspaper writes)

Unfortunatly I coundn't go, the Darmstädter Echo announced it really late. But I definitly will have a look at the book. If there is a ISBN, I will post it here, as soon as possible


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I just bought the book today and it is a great book. A lot of information about the different periods; from the planing of the building (architectual aspects etc.) to the interior decorations, rooms etc. The later years when the Arts & Crafts influence came up.

Pictures of the different rooms of Alice, even of their earlier home Prinz-Karl Palais.

I would say, even if you can't read german it is worth getting for everyone who is interested in the Hessian Familiy.

ISBN: 3-88443-302-4

It is published by the 'Selbstverlag der Hessischen Historischen Kommission Darmstadt und der Historischen Kommission Hessen'

Titel:  Das Darmstädter Neue Palais von Petra Tücks


You could try to get it over:

Hess. Historische Kommission,
Karolinenplatz 3
64289 Darmstadt

FAX: 06151- 165901

From abroad it would be: +49 6151-165901




Greetings VN

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2006, 10:31:08 AM »
Indeed a lovely book. I got my copy yesterday.  :D

The book is certainly not an easy-reading book about the Hessian Grand-ducal family. It is actually Petra Tücks' Ph.D. thesis and describes - as far as I could see at first glance -  the history, architectual characteristics and interior decorating of the New Palace thoroughly and in great detail.

I haven't read it yet, so I cannot say anything about the text, but the photos, sketches and watercolour paintings may be of interest to those who are interested in how the family lived. The book offers several floorplans of the New Palace, photos of the exterior of the palace from different angles and from different periods, as well as clear photos and sketches of various rooms, characteristic pieces of furniture, lamps, wall decorations etc.
"The Correspondence of the Empress Alexandra of Russia with Ernst Ludwig and Eleonore, Grand Duke and Duchess of Hesse. 1878-1916"  -  http://www.bod.de/index.php?id=296&objk_
"Grand Duke Ernst Ludwig and Princess Alix of Hesse and by Rhine in Italy - 1893"

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2006, 12:18:05 PM »
In this year the park of Wolfsgarten will be open at May 13 and 14 and May 20 and 21. It is very interesting.

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006, 11:45:10 AM »
Couldn't get the link, but I've been there and it's a lovely, lovely place.  If it's possible to visit, I suggest anyone who can to visit.  What I love about Darmstadt is that you can FEEL Ernie there, and Wolfsgarten is no exception.
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006, 03:22:11 PM »
That's a great description Ilana. BTW, when's the book due?  :)
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2006, 04:36:20 PM »
Some images from the article:



The window with signatures ranging from AF & NII to Charles & Diana to Mick Jagger and Dame Edna.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2006, 04:38:49 PM »


A table with Jugendstil objects (which GD Ernst like to collect) and a small portrait (based on the one below). It's located in a small room off the grand salon

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2006, 04:59:38 PM »


A desk and embossed leather chair in EL's study. The desk is covered with Jugendstil objects. The chair is by Otto Eckmann who was a painter who changed to the 'applied arts'. Eckmann had created a whole suite for EL in 1897 and this chair was part of it. There are also numerous photos on the desk. These seem to be those (left to right):

Ernie


Alexei shoveling snow


a bi-fold of Ella


Alexandra


Front and center of the desk is Elisabeth of Hesse. I've looked through my collection and I can't find one that seems to match. It looks like one of the set where she's wearing the white dress and perhaps holding flowers.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2006, 05:08:06 PM »


A Victorian desk in an upstairs bedroom. There are several family portraits. The one in the center looks to be Ernie based on the von Angeli portrait of the family painted shortly before Alice's death. There also seems to be one of Ludwig below it to the left and so, presumably, the pendant on to it on the right, is probably Alice though it's hard to tell. The portrait to the right of Ernie looks like it could also be him though perhaps it's one of his sons. It might be more obvious if the pendant portrait on the left was visible.

The family portrait


detail of Ernie
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2006, 10:11:50 PM »
In the article it says that Landgrave Moritz wants to make more of the property and artworks more accessible to the public. 'I watned to make our museum collections more known to the general public...We want Americans to come and see our palaces, all fully furnished with original paintings and tapestries and our antiques, porcelain and silver.'  The recent Hesse exhibit was a 'first-ever viewing of pieces that in some cases had been hidden from the public eye for centuries'.

So while 2 Hese properties aren't open to the public, it sounds like there will be more availability for people to see and appreciate. And who knows what the future will bring in future years? I remember when only the one gallery was open at Buckingham Palace back in 1992 when I was in London, then larger areas of BP were supposed to just be opened temporarily (I think it was to raise money to help defray the costs of the fire at Windsor Castle) and now they are open for large parts of the year.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2006, 05:12:32 AM »
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The family portrait




This is very interesting!  Is this portrait in Wolfsgarten as it also hangs in the dining room of Osborne House? Are there two copies of it? It is very beautiful, and the family really comes to life on it.

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2006, 08:45:27 AM »
No, BT. Sorry for confusion. I was just using it to show the detail of Ernie and how the portrait on the wall at Wolfsgarten seems to be based on the sitting. I think the only copy was at Osborne.
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