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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2006, 05:31:59 PM »
That's interesting about their renovating Schloss Seeheim.  I have been there, but it was completely delapidated, and it is, afterall, where Louis proposed to Victoria.  I'm glad they're doing that....
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2006, 04:33:05 AM »
That's interesting about their renovating Schloss Seeheim.  I have been there, but it was completely delapidated, and it is, afterall, where Louis proposed to Victoria.  I'm glad they're doing that....


An Investor is renovating the Schloß; in the Park they are planning to build, I think, 12 mansions. They call them Villas. A lot of people where opposing those plans. But now they will be build. But maybe this is the price the village has to pay, and Schloß Seeheim is saved.

Not only that Louis proposed to Victoria. Ludwig III loved to stay in Seeheim, this is where his Morganatic wife Magdalena Appel took care of him in his last years and this is where he died. I allway thought that it was a real shame that this place was so neglected, considering the historical value. (In my opinion).


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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2006, 05:09:20 AM »
Where is Schloss Seeheim ? Is it near Heiligenberg ? ???

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2006, 12:20:21 PM »
Seeheim is a small, very small village located next to Jugenheim. Maybe 5 Minutes by car from Schloss to Schloss.

VN, I did not know that the building of the houses on the Seeheim estate is definite now.....the last article I read stated that it would probably NOT be the case....How can people dare defacing the grounds....This may not be a question of money....

I know, by the way, that there are photographs or at least drawings of the rooms at Heiligenberg in the Darmstadt archive
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2006, 02:32:31 AM »
The deplorable state it was in last year was due to a fire.  :'(

It wasn't owned by the Hesse family any more, at least not as far as I know:  although Ernst Ludwig was allowed to keep certain properties after the revolution of 1918, Schloss Seeheim was not one of them.

In his memoirs, Ernst Ludwig mentioned some of the plans he had had for his country that were destroyed by the revolution. He had wanted to build a new mansion on top of the hill, according to his own taste, as a personal statement for later generations, as he had always preserved and embellished older, existing buildings built by others, but had never built one himself.
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2006, 04:44:14 AM »
Seeheim is a small, very small village located next to Jugenheim. Maybe 5 Minutes by car from Schloss to Schloss.

VN, I did not know that the building of the houses on the Seeheim estate is definite now.....the last article I read stated that it would probably NOT be the case....How can people dare defacing the grounds....This may not be a question of money....

I know, by the way, that there are photographs or at least drawings of the rooms at Heiligenberg in the Darmstadt archive

Hallo Thomas_Hesse  :)

A few months ago a woman I know, she lives right next to the park, she should know,  told me that those villas will be build. I was wondering, because I also thought they where reconsidering the plan. We will see.....eventhought the renovation of Schloß Seeheim is great, to imagine the park being distroyed isn't so nice. It has (had  :-\) such a tranquil atmosphere.

Grüße von der Sandro  :-* und Johanna Freundin  ;)

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2006, 09:19:18 AM »
Sandro lived there ?  ???

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2006, 11:15:19 AM »
Here are some sites with photos of Heiligenberg




http://www.landhausamweinberg.de/luftbild_schloss_heiligenberg.html
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2006, 01:50:39 PM »
Sandro lived there ?  ???

NO!! Sorry for the missunderstanding. This was an inside joke for Thomas_Hesse, we know eachother.

It means 'Greetings from Sandro and Johannas Friend (Girlfriend)'  ;)

But Sandro visited Seeheim when the family went there to visit Uncle Louis III. Like Thomas said, Seeheim is very close to Jugenheim.
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2006, 10:02:11 PM »
Okay ! Thanks for clearing that one up !

Also thanks for the pics of Schloss Heiligenberg. I will definitely go there next year. Within my stay in Darmstadt.  ;)

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2006, 11:06:56 AM »
Dear grandduchessella,
if the shown proberty is Heiligenberg in Hessen the governments teacher trainig center I will join every training  ;)

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2006, 11:48:42 AM »
Dear Rita,

Yes, you can! I don't know whether you can see the cross from the old scenic road through Seeheim and Jugenheim, but you can certainly see it from the B3. :) :)

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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2006, 06:40:11 PM »
Oh, is it the Heilingenberg in southern Germany? (I just googled around) That's disappointing. I had wondered if it was the SH since I didn't know how a Furstenberg would come into possession but there wasn't enough follow-up as of yesterday that indicated it.  :(
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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2007, 02:49:46 PM »
I am glad to see that a book has been published about the Neues Palais in Darmstadt. I have been intrigued by that place for a long time, as it was the childhood home of Alix and her siblings. Plus since it was sadly destroyed and I haven't seen many pictures of it, it holds a kind of mystique for me.

The problem is that I don't know any German, so I was wondering are there enough pictures to make it worth spending the nearly $100 USD that I have seen it selling for? I have read this thread and the consensus seems to be that, despite it being a scholarly work and not a particularly easy read as Helen put it, it still worth getting. I guess I'm just looking for some more recommendations and reassurances...

Are there any other books on this palace out there (I don't imagine there are)?

A new book is out about the "Neues Palais". This week there was a lecture about the book and Palais from the author in the Staatsarchiv in DA. Here the details:

Das Darmstädter Neue Palais - von Petra Tücks (Art Historian)

Verlag der Hessischen Historischen Kommission Darmstadt,

400 Seiten (Pages), price: €56.-


It shows alot of unpublished material like sketches, pictures, plans (thats what the newspaper writes)

Unfortunatly I coundn't go, the Darmstädter Echo announced it really late. But I definitly will have a look at the book. If there is a ISBN, I will post it here, as soon as possible


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Re: Palaces and Castles of the Hesses
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2007, 03:16:19 PM »
Hallo Sarai

I would say that it is worth buying, even if you don't understand/read german. If you have a german dictionary you will find out easily what the description next to the pictures mean. It contains beautiful pictures of the house itself and the interior.

Greetings VN