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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2008, 05:15:47 AM »
Good day!
I search portrait of Auguste Gfn Reuss zu Ebersdorf. She was a mother of GDss Anna Feodorovna.

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2008, 09:41:53 AM »
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Do you know who published "Romanov Relations"?  It sounds like a fascinating book and one that I'd enjoy reading.

Romanov Relations: The Private Correspondence of Tsars Alexander I, Nicholas I and the Grand Dukes Constantine and Michael with Their Sister Queen Anna Pavlovna, 1817-1855; Edited By S.W. Jackman; Assisted By Berangere Steel London. Macmillan 1969.

S W Jackman made rather a specialty of Romanov-Dutch royalty and edited the letters of Anna Pavlovna and her mother (Chere Annette: Letters from Russia 1820-1828) and the letters of Queen Sophie of the Netherlands and Lady Malet (A Stranger in the Hague: The Letters of Queen Sophie of the Netherlands to Lady Malet, 1842-77).  I found 'Romanov Relations' the most interesting although Anna Pavlovna showsa really nasty attitude to her daughter-in-law/niece; however, Sophie loathed her mother-in-law/aunt almost equally so it was perfectly mutual.  Constantine as I said, comes out rather well from the letters, but there is no reference to his first wife.  Anna Pavlovna would have been just 4 when he and Julianne separated for the first time, and she returned to Russia briefly in 1801 when Anna was 6, so she would hardly have remembered her or had much to do with her. 


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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2009, 01:27:32 AM »
Portrait of GDss Anna Feodorovna by Winterhalter, 1848

http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/2991279770061759156fKZOED

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2009, 07:28:13 AM »
Here is polish wikipedia where you can find a picture of Joanna Grudzinska, the princess of Lowicz


http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Grudzi%C5%84ska


plus some other pictures, the text is in polish but there are pictures of her

http://www.zgapa.pl/zgapedia/Joanna_Grudzi%C5%84ska.html
http://www.polskiedzieje.pl/galeria-historyczna/obraz-duzy-447

something in Russian
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/2010239/post67289359/
http://marinazen.livejournal.com/305121.html?thread=1520353 ( a family album of pavel I, in fact)


Someone asked about relation between elizaveta alexeevna and anna fedorovna and I`m ready to tell you. EA instantly took to the Coburgs (the 3 girls came with their mother), she even envied the girls that they were allowed to come with their mother because EA ahd to arrive at S Petersburg at 13, without her mother, only with her younger sister Frederique (Frick) who I believe bacame the Swedish queen (she married the prince who was supposed to marry Alexandra Pavlovna but the engagement did not come through due to Catherine II`s wish thta her daughter was to remain Orthodox). Not only did EA like AF but she became a sort of mentor for her because she in a sense paved the way for AF. While EA and her husband had a certain bond at least at the beginning of their marriage, Ann`s marriage was a failurre from the very beginning so the two of them spent a lot of time together sharing common fate. EA must have felt a need to take care of someone (she desperately wanted to give birth to the heir) she started to take care of AF, she somehow helped her to navigate at court. In her letters to her mother EA calls her friend at "dear giel' or a charming child". When Pavel I  ascended the throne, both Konstantin and Alexander had to paticipate in military maneouvres so both young women stayed together, they also comforted each other when Pavel`s fits of rage were unbearable. I guess EA might have regretted that AF came back to her parents as she lost one of her few friends

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2009, 08:17:33 AM »
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her younger sister Frederique (Frick) who I believe bacame the Swedish queen (she married the prince who was supposed to marry Alexandra Pavlovna but the engagement did not come through due to Catherine II`s wish thta her daughter was to remain Orthodox).

Her older sister Sophie Fredericke married Emanuel, Count Mensdorff Pouilly while another sister Victoire married Emich Prince of Leiningen and subsequently Edward Duke of Kent, and yet another sister Antoinette married Alexander of Wurttemburg.  Gustav IV Adolph of Sweden married Fredericke Dorothea of Baden

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2009, 12:28:17 PM »
thanks for correcting me CountessKate! But the rest of info on AF is true ;) ;) I`ve just checked the book that is on Elizaveta Alexeevna, in fact ;)

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2009, 03:29:59 PM »
I'm sure it is, Violetta, it would be strange if two young women in such very similar circumstances didn't bond.  But it is interesting to think of what would have happened if Anna had born a son to Constantine who lived - might Elizabeth have felt more or less pressure on her own position?  Presumably a divorce between Anna and Constantine would have been out of the question, and would Constantine have given up the throne?  Fascinating to speculate.

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2009, 05:23:16 PM »
I know that the IF sent envoy were sent to Anna to persuade her to come back She was even tempted by the Imperial crown. as we know A I and Elizaveta were childless (their 2 daughter died childless) Constantine was he heir to the throne, but even the crown didn`t prsuade her to come back. in 1815 ,after the vienna congress, constantine was appointed commaner-in chief of the Polish army and went to Warsaw. But in fact he was the ruler of the Polish Kingdom. In autumn 1815 he met Joanna Grudzinska at a ball and fallin love with her. Joanna was a polish aristocrat but the title of the princess was granted to the Grudzinskis in the 1790s . The family came from Poznan, or ,to be precise, not far from Poznan ( also known as Pozen). He started visiting her family and decided that divorce was necesary. It took 4 years to persuade the Dowager Impress to give permission to the marriage. for her, divorcr meant that a member of the IF didn`t respect the sanctity of conjugal ties. what is more, the Russians could have the same impression. the point is that during church services a priest named all the mebers of the IF  and asked to pray for them,in case of divorce ANNA`s name wouldn`t be mentioned so accoding to mariya fedorovna" every russian peasant in a provincial village would doubt whether the member of the IF neglected the sanctity of conjugal ties, that would undermine the authority of the IF"9quote from memory, read it in NIKOLAY I by Shilder, published more than 100 years ago). when it became clear that ANNA wouldn`t come back mariya fedorovna agreed for the divorce under the condition that he wpould choose another German princess. but constantine persevered and finally received the permission renouncing his rights to the throne.

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2009, 01:51:57 AM »
Dear all, I need information about La Grande Duchesse Anna Feodorovna (born Princess Juliane Henriette Ulrike of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld) what she did after she returned to Coburg in 1799 and went back to and left Sank Petersburg again in 1801.
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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2009, 12:34:41 PM »
Dear all, I need information about La Grande Duchesse Anna Feodorovna (born Princess Juliane Henriette Ulrike of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld) what she did after she returned to Coburg in 1799 and went back to and left Sank Petersburg again in 1801.
Thank you all.
 

Anna Fedorovna returned to Coburg in 1799 with the thought that she would never be back to Russia, she pointed out her wish to divorce, but her family and the family of Pavel I were strictly opposite the divorce and she was forced to left for St-Petersburg in the same 1799 year for the wedding of GDss Elena Pavlovna, sister of GD Konstantin.
In 1801, after Pavel's death, Anna left for Coburg and never saw Russia again. Till 1813 year she was wandering about Germany, living mostly in native Coburg, gave birth to 2 illegetimate children from different fathers. In 1813 she was given a permission to settle in Switzerland where she bought mansion and lived for the rest of her life.
In 1814 GD Konstantin suddenly surfaced at her door with a sweet offer to return to him and to Russia, as his brother didn't have male offsprings and they together could be the future Emperor and Empress. Anna, who had been used for her quiet and independent life, was shocked and after some hesitating flatly refused. Konstantin was furious (he definitely didn't want to live with her but his brother ordered him to go to Anna and speak about re-union), Anna's brother Leopold (future King of Belgium) tried to convince sister to think twice about the situation but Anna was adamant. No return to Russia...


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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2009, 12:54:32 PM »
In 1820 Anna Fedorovna and GD Konstantin were divorced. All her years out of Russia she had been received money (rent) for living from the Russian Imperial Court. Even after the divorce she was not refused in Russian money, and she was able to live properly though not in luxury certainly.

She was not an outcast at the European Courts, in general her peers felt sorry for her unfortunate Russian marriage and recieved her with grace. It's interesting that in 1832 her son Eduard Levenfels (born in 1809, from Anna's love affair with her chamberlain ) married his cousin Bertha, illegetimate daughter of Duke Ernst of Coburg, brother of Anna : ) . In 1837 Anna lost her daughter Hilda, who was born in 1812, a child of affair with her new chamberlain...The rest of her life former GDss lived in Switzerland, died there in 1860 and was buried at the Rosengarten cemetery in Bern. Her tombstone was very simple, with inscription : "Julia - Anna".



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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #41 on: September 10, 2009, 10:11:25 AM »
Thank you, SisterX, and welcome to the forum!

What an informative post!  I just learned more about Juliana than I ever had before!

I was recently reading some of the earlier letters of QV, and in one she writes to King Leopold about Juliana.  Apparently, QV had gone to Belgium for a visit, and while there, she met her Aunt Juliana for the first time, who was sick and staying with Leopold.  She seems to have made a favorable impression on Victoria, as she inquired into her health and well-being in the next several letters.  At this time, Victoria was already grown and married.  I guess growing up, she (Victoria) was cut off from most of her Coburg relatives.

Christopher, do you konow the date when QV met Juliane in Belgium? Please inform me. thanks

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2009, 01:07:46 AM »
Thank you, SisterX, and welcome to the forum!

What an informative post!  I just learned more about Juliana than I ever had before!

I was recently reading some of the earlier letters of QV, and in one she writes to King Leopold about Juliana.  Apparently, QV had gone to Belgium for a visit, and while there, she met her Aunt Juliana for the first time, who was sick and staying with Leopold.  She seems to have made a favorable impression on Victoria, as she inquired into her health and well-being in the next several letters.  At this time, Victoria was already grown and married.  I guess growing up, she (Victoria) was cut off from most of her Coburg relatives.

Christopher, do you konow the date when QV met Juliane in Belgium? Please inform me. thanks

I've read a Russian bio on Anna Fedorovna and there was only a mention that Duchess Victoria of Kent with her daughter (future QV) visited Juliana in her Switzerland home.

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2009, 02:15:41 PM »
Letters of the Empress Elizaveta Alexeevna to her mother contain information on the arrival of Juliana of Saxe-Coburg at St.Petersburg

1.25/09 - 6/10 / 1795 We are expecting the arrival of the princess of Coburg with her daughters...they are so lucky to come with their mother ! (elizaveta came without her mother, no member of her family was present at her wedding either)

2. 9-20.10.1795

The princess if Coburg has arrived at last!...The princess is not pretty at all,she is 38 but she looks 50. The eldest daughter Sophia is pretty but her mouth is unpleasant.she has dark hair, black eyes and very fair complexion. the second daughter, antoinette, is blond, and she is less pretty than sophia. the third girl-julia-is the most attractive, she looks mischievous, she also has beautiful eyes.we met yesterday, and i had the impression that we had known each other for at least  weeks. we spoke german and we talked about germany. constantine was making a choice for the 3 days, and julia is staying here. all the three girls and their mother are absolutely great. grand duke is in love and very satisfied.it is so funnu to watch them - they`re in love and they do stupid  and funny things.

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Re: Anna Feodorovna
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2009, 02:34:36 PM »
30.10-10.11/1795
 the princess of coburg has left.Oh,my God! her departure reminded me of our parting three years ago.when the princess hugged julia for the first time i bacame frightened, i had an impression that it was all going on with me.then the mother came up to me and kissed me.i took julia by her hand...julia is a wonderful child:kind,polite, sincere, she is the best friend i could have ever dreamt of. ..she hasn`t kissed the grand duke yet.