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Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« on: June 12, 2005, 04:16:07 PM »
Hi everyone,just curious about the statues in front of the courtyard - near the colonnade of corinthian columns - their history,were they removed before the german occupation in 1941,one statue looks like a Atlas figure.Thanks,Stephen ;)

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 07:22:10 PM »
Hi Stephan,

I believe you are talking about the figures titled: "A Boy Playing At Knucklebones" by N. Pimenov and "A Boy Playing Svayka" by A. Loganovsky. The figures in front of the palace are cast in iron. There are versions of the statues (I don't recall what material they are made of) in the Russian Museum in St. Petersburg.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 10:34:12 PM »
Thanks for the information on the statues,is svayka a russian game.Regards Stephen  :)

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2005, 08:33:55 PM »
I'm not sure if svayka originated as a Russian game. According to a footnote in an edition of "War and Peace", svayka is described as a game where a large-head nail or spike was thrown from a distance with the goal of getting it inside of an iron ring.

I also found Loganovsky's statue alternately titled "A Boy Playing Handfid" in a small booklet on the Alexander Palace.

Perhaps,  someone will have more information on this.
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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 06:42:18 AM »
Hi, rgt9w, a big thank you for your research,Regards Stephen  ;)

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2005, 08:31:45 PM »
I made a travelogue of my trip to Tsarskoe Selo this summer, and the pictures include a lot of AP exteriors, including the park. Take a look, here is the link:  

http://www.geocities.com/mushkah/APandpark.html

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2005, 09:33:52 PM »
The photos are remarkable!  Particularly when placed side by side with historical photos.  Thank you!

There is a brief description of the statues on the Tsarskoe Selo site:

http://www.alexanderpalace.org/tsarskoe/alexanderpalace.html

"On the colonnade are two bronze statues; the "Babochnik" and the "Svaechnik", which represent players at two ancient Russian games "babki" and "svaika". These figures are made by the Russian sculptors, Pimenov and Loganovsky."

Also found these definitions on the internet; perhaps someone has a better explanation:

Babki - The name of a children’s game similar to Pick-Up-Stix, but played with old soup bones.

Svaika - a 19th century game involving throwing a heavy iron spike through an iron ring.  The game resembles quoits, an ancient version of horseshoes.  

I am now very curious about both games!

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2005, 01:52:16 AM »
Helen, Only a few of the pictures from your site will load on my computer am I doing something wrong???

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2005, 07:34:01 AM »
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Helen, Only a few of the pictures from your site will load on my computer am I doing something wrong???


Londo, I just checked the link, they all seem to be fine. Maybe try again? Occasionally something happens at Imageshack and some of the photos don't come through, but later they return...

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2005, 09:05:09 PM »
Photo from September 17, 2005.  Yes, that's me.


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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2005, 11:27:58 PM »
Scott:

All I can say is that you look 'right at home'.

Doug ;)

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2005, 03:10:13 PM »
Wonderful picture Scott, great to see what you look like!  All American guy, but like you belong there....

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2005, 04:59:05 PM »
Hi Scott,

Nice picture of you, but, what is the statue, anyone of note ?

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2005, 08:38:38 PM »
It is one of the two statues that this thread is about.

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Re: Exteriors of Alexander Palace
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2005, 11:05:49 PM »
Scott, did you by any chance get a photo of the inscriptions beneath the statues (Pushkin's poetry about them)? I wanted to photograph them so that I could translate them later, but as I mentioned earlier, my digital camera broke almost immediately after I got to Russia and it wouldn't have worked with a regular camera... I hope you have them!