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Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« on: June 14, 2005, 12:11:41 AM »
Just finished reading the book A Princess in the Family. It is a very short book and an easy read. Although very little information is given about Granny Alina. I wish the author would have shared more of his memories of the woman. But anyway, it was interesting. I didn't want to start this topic under claimants because Granny Alina never made a claim. I doubt that she really was GDMarie, but she did live the life I would imagine that a GD would have lived had any of them survived the cellar.
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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2005, 08:24:27 AM »
So, is there info in the book about her escape, etc?  Or is the book only about Alina in South Africa?  I am interested in getting this book, but if it is only reminisces about Alina, but nothing about the so-called escape, I'll pass.

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2005, 10:05:29 AM »
This is something I'd like to know more about, but like Denise said only if it offers new info.

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2005, 01:13:10 PM »
It is sadly disappointing in details of her life. It mostly talks about the author's efforts to determine whether she was one of the GD's or not. He tried to have DNA testing, but it couldn't be done because of the condition of the body. I just like reading about the pretenders. Although I must make it clear Granny ALena never did make a claim that she was a GD. Like I said, it is very lacking in details of her life or what kind of person she was. I had no idea what to expect so I bought it to see.
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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2005, 07:23:00 PM »
Here's a website about a women that claimed she was the Grand Duchess Marie :-/


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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2005, 09:02:37 PM »
This is the famous "Granny Alena" and there is already two threads to discuss her case in the "Survivor Forum". Very interesting, but the info is not clear and I found it inconclusive...Some people who read the book feel deceived about it...

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2005, 06:13:35 AM »
If you really want to know something about Granny Alina, search in the documantry 'A lost Princess'.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2005, 02:34:56 PM »
Thanks, how nice for a change to get to explore other stories besides AA.

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2005, 10:26:44 PM »
I have to say that the story of Granny Alina is utter rubbish it's like the case of Anna Anderson.  AA and GA both have similar looks to OTMA but they are not them.  I feel sorry for the poor fella who had so much extensive tests to prove that it is Maria.  
The face proves it.  
Is it true they had to use Prince Phillip (the queen's consort) as DNA to help find if the DNA matched the bone of Granny Alina?

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2005, 11:39:05 PM »
In the case of Granny Alina, I don't believe she was Maria.

Look at the faces.  Alina has different shade of hair, her eyebrows are not the same shape as Maria.  Her eyes are not the same size.  Hdr chin is also a different shape to Maria.  Also why would Maria change her name to Alina?  
The poor South African fellow who believes his granny was Maria is a fool.  
When they dug up Alina's bones they could not match the DNA to that of Prince Phillip (he is the direct great nephew to Alix.).  It turned out inconclusive cause of the dirt and decomposition of the bones.  
Did Granny Alina speak just Russian and English??
The whole family mainly spoke English.
I just don't believe Granny Alina was Maria.

Granny Alina

Maria with Anastasia.

I picked a pic that had Maria wearing a hat so you can see the differences.

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2005, 11:45:07 AM »
I love that pic. Maria looks beautiful and healthy, she had always a clever face... Anastasia also looks pretty.

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2005, 07:30:10 AM »
Well i do believe Granny Aline wás Maria, but you know, everyone has his own thoughts  ;).
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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2005, 06:48:48 PM »
I'm not sure about this case...However, you must compare lots of photographies to conclude is a person is or not who claims she is. If you does only a comparison of a single photo, results could not be conclusive. In some photos, I'm not like me at all... :D. And of course, those comparations will be made by experts and anthropologic seniors. And of course DNA could help, but in Romanov case I'm very suspicious of it.

YEAH...I know that some people would be very angry to me for saying this...(Hehehe)  ;D

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2005, 06:48:59 PM »
she definetly was not Mashka...NO

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Re: Claimants of Grand Duchess Marie Nikolaevna
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2005, 10:36:23 AM »
How many people said they were which Romanov. It becomes hilarious.This woman wasn't Marie. Anyway, this belongs on a different thread.