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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2010, 05:20:57 AM »
If he had sons, they would have been healthy (at any rate, not haemophiliac). any daughters would have been carriers, so putting his grandsons at risk of haemophilia.

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« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2010, 10:47:21 PM »
There is exception --  had he married a girl who was hemophilia's carrier, the children would have surely (there is certain percent of possibility) be carriers/or they would have been hemophiliacs.
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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 04:46:28 AM »
True. He could then have produced a haemophiliac daughter! Realistically, he would need to have avoided any girl descended from Queen Victoria.

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« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2010, 06:02:59 AM »
That could be difficult. Many descendants ;)
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« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2010, 06:37:28 AM »
Exactly. Made much more difficult by the First World War, which would exclude all Germans, Austrians and Bulgarians for an indefinite period after the war was over.

I should have said 'descended from Victoria in the female line', in fact, since descendants of Victoria's sons were 'safe', apart from Alice of Athlone, who was rather old for Alexei anyway!

When was Margaret of Connaught's daughter born. If she was close in age to Alexei she would be a reasonable possibility. (I think they would want to get him married in his early 20s, so as to give the maximum chance of fathering a son before premature death)

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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2010, 07:28:57 AM »
I have read elsewhere on the forum in the past, whole lists of possible brides for Alexei!!!!

Ingrid of Sweden was born in 1910 and then there was Ileana of Romania b. 1909.

There would have been other choices too! Everyone went on for a while about the Nicholas of Greece's girls Elizabeth b. 1904 and Marina b. 1906 in particular as possible suitable future wives for Alexei. Probably the added bonus of them being Orthodox!

Maybe even the gorgeous Astrid of Sweden b. 1905 might have married Alexei instead of Leopld III of the Belgiums....who knows?

Any of the above would have been highly attractive candidates because they came out of hemophilia free marriages which by the 1920s would have been pretty obvious I would have thought!
 

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« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2010, 06:11:55 PM »
Well I know that he was born August 12, 1904 (It was a different date at the time because they changed the calender). He had Brown/copper hair, and the Romanov blue eyes. He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth, (being a Hemophiliac it would be difficult for a dentist to fix it). He was atleast a foot shorter than Nicholas at the time of death. He played balalaika, soldiers and all sorts of war games.
Here's a couple of things he did as he mentioned in a journal entry:

6 January 1918
"Got up at 7. Had tea with Papa, Tatiana and Anastasia. We played cards. Maria is dress and is walking around the rooms. At 6 o’clock we played hide and seek and shouted and made a terrible noise."

Cited from Alexeiromanov.org

He also played with Kolia. Some kid he knew. I've heard Tsar Nicholas speak before but there's no recording of Alexei. :(

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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2010, 08:08:36 PM »
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.
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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2010, 10:39:24 PM »
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.

Well yeah I know, I've found lots of them in the the family's online photoalbum, but the thing was that there aren't many of them. I guess he smiled alot, just not much for the camera. ^^ I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh. Oh and sorry, he was a lot taller then Nicky.
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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2010, 11:02:25 PM »
He never smiled because he had a gap in his teeth

It's true he had a gap, but there are numerous photos that show Aleksei smiling in spit of it.

Yes. I think he didn't care about his gap...In fact we know that he had a gap since we've seen him smiling in lot of pics.

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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2010, 12:47:21 AM »

Any of the above would have been highly attractive candidates because they came out of hemophilia free marriages which by the 1920s would have been pretty obvious I would have thought!


Who knows if he wouldn't have choose a russian girl for marrying for love. We know, that this was nearly impossible according to the law and the profound aversion of the IF to morganatic marriages, but times always changes and remember his parents (esp. his mother) which were absolutely devoted to him and the possibility of his own froward head. Who knows if he wouldn't have said: "This one and no other." He was not the well-behaved child like his sisters and much more was him allowed to do. And everything was addicted to him.

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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2010, 06:56:32 AM »
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2010, 11:54:53 AM »
 Referencing Reply # 41. I, too, would be interested in verification of this and will watch for the reply statement/origin of "proof."  I have the strangest feeling that this poster ("Gorseheart") is picking up information from one or more of these prolific "teen/crush" sites and not being very discriminating in filtering/verifying the information therein. ( The references to Kolia Deverenko in Post # , as "some kid he played with," and the Heir's not being attended by a dentist : "Also Alexei wasn't allolwed to the Dentist being a Hemophiliac,"  a direct quote of "Gorseheart" from Reply # 28, "Discussions about the Imperial Family and European Royalty/ Tsarevich Alexei Nicholaievich/ Was his teeth crooked? "  are very revealing in knowledge/research depth.) Perhaps time and experience will sharpen his/her skills.   Regards,  AP.
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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2010, 12:30:04 PM »
The reference to Kolia is in "Gorseheart's" #36 post of this thread.   The number was omitted in my previous post #42.  AP
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Re: Alexei Nicholaievich's stats
« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2010, 02:46:06 PM »
I do know he had a certain laugh that gave people the chills, because it was his "Sinister" prank laugh.

Interesting. Do you know the source for that info? I've not heard of that before.

I've picked this information up in a book, but there are several quotes, like here's one from: "The Romanovs & Mr. Gibbs"-

 "There were several battles involving scissors. 'I had a rather bad quarter' Gibbes wrote in dismay. 'He wanted to cut my hair off and he was rather disconcerted when I told him he had made a bald place...he would insist on cutting or pretending to cut everything. The more I tried to prevent him, the more he shrieked with delight' Gibbes noted, with disapproval, a change in the Tsarevitch's appearance during these outbursts. 'He doesn't look handsome then: a most curious expression.' At the time Gibbes had no idea the Tsarevitch was a hemophiliac. Had he known, he would have been considerably more disturbed by the boy's antics."

(Please understand, I pick my information up from very reliable sources, never those stupid "Dating sites". Plus I've found numerous times when others have failed to quote. But this is only one of the quotes, when I find the other, I'll put it up. So please, don't be rude, I can be smart about a subject too.)
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