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Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« on: June 23, 2005, 07:46:03 PM »
Could someone tell me more about Infanta Maria Luisa of Spain, who became Queen of Etruria? I just know that her husband have been from the Bourbon-Parma family (I think).
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 12:03:38 AM »

Infanta Maria Louisa, daughter of King Charles IV of Spain, wife of Louis of Bourbon-Parma King of Etruria .

Luisa received, as a kind of pension, the sovereign Duchy of Lucca after Napoleon fell.
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 05:46:27 AM »
Napoleon had promissed to the  queen of Etruria the government of some lands in Portugal, but she died in Lucca as duchess Both Luis and MĒ Luisa can be seen in Goya's 1800 portrait of the royal spanish family. she aged 18 with her first son in her arms.Marc's post of Luis is a zoom of this great portrait. I hope to travel to Madrid soon and take digital big images in el Prado of the faces of all of them and so the big of Felipe V by Van Loo. I will share with you very pleased.
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2005, 06:02:52 AM »
I wouldn't say that María Luisa "Luisetta" of Spain was an ugly woman. When young she was much admired for her prettiness and her witty character. Yes, she wasn't a beauty, but she wasn't ugly either. Her cousin Luigi was very much in love with her. But after she turned 25, she became increasingly fat and, of course, less attractive...
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2006, 05:57:35 AM »


Maria Luisa of Spain, Queen of Etruria
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2008, 03:17:34 AM »
Infanta Maria Amalia (1779-1798) was the third daughter of king Carlos IV of Spain and Maria Luisa of Parma. When she was just 16 years old, she was married to her youngest uncle, Infante Antonio of Spain, who was 24 years older. She died three years after the wedding. Are there some pictures of her? Why was she married to her uncle? And why she died so early?
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 04:05:14 AM »
Yes, I am interested in her too! There isn't a lot I have found so far!

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In 1795 Maria Louisa's first cousin, Louis, Hereditary Prince of Parma, came to the Spanish court to finish his education. There was an understanding between the two royal families that Louis would marry one of the daughters of Carlos IV. It was anticipated that he would marry the infanta Maria Amalia, Carlos IV's eldest unmarried daughter. She was fifteen years old at the time and of a timid and melancholy nature.
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This is from Wikipedia and under an article about her Sister Maria Louisa who Louis of Parma chose over Maria Amalia. It does however describe Maria Amalia at least as melancholy and timid.    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Louisa_of_Spain%2C_Duchess_of_Lucca

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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 10:52:19 AM »
Are there some pictures of her? Why was she married to her uncle? And why she died so early?

According to what I've read, it is Maria Amalia who appears in the great family portrait painted by Goya called "Charles IV's family" and not her sister Carlota Joaquina as it as been said. She's the woman whose face is shown next to her husband Infante Antonio. In addition, I found another picture of her in an old Spanish royal magazine.
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 06:56:18 AM »
the Family of Charles IV by Goya

http://eeweems.com/goya/family_charles_iv.html


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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2008, 04:48:28 AM »
Maria Amalia died after haven given birth to a stillborn child.

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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2008, 11:31:33 AM »
hello !

I wonder if her child was a girl or a boy?

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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2008, 05:16:09 PM »
hello !

I wonder if her child was a girl or a boy?

It was a stillborn baby girl.
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 02:16:21 AM »
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I don't know much about how Amalia felt about her son being King of Etruria, and at the expense of her own nephew at that (kicked out of Tuscany)... however, it seems that both son Louis and his family were warmly received by Amalia and Ferdinand (despite the latter's strong objections to the deal). Queen Maria Luisa of Etruria wrote her memoirs and she mentioned that they first arrived in Piacenza, where her parents in law greeted them. Then they all proceeded to Parma, where her sisters-in-law (Antonia and Carlotta) were. She wrote that they  spent 3 happy weeks  in Parma before leaving for Florence and that she felt  so sad upon leaving them --- she likened their parting as saying goodbye to her own family in Spain. I guess that indicates that despite whatever differences the family may have had on the Etruria issue, they still managed to overcome them and had a happy time together  Smiley (hope this helps a bit).

Yes, and the Duke of Parma presented his son Louis (Ludovico) with four coaches and thirty horses as a parting gift. Louis had a seizure as he got out of bed for the trip and his mother and father insisted on their faithful Chamberlain, Count Silvatico going to Florence with him until he was well! So, all was well between the family! In fact Maria Luisa declared it was like parting from her own family again. They had been received with joy and affection.

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These seizures caused his dependence to a great degree on his wife...that and his personality. In Paris the Duchess d'Abrantes had described the scene of one of these attacks. She states that the Queen appeared much distressed and tried to conceal her Husband. He was as pale as death and his features completely altered. Apparently afterwards when he entered the State Room, Mme Bonaparte asked him what was the matter and he replied "Oh its nothing, its nothing, is it Luisa? (from the memoirs of the Duchesse d'Abrantes).

http://books.google.com/books?id=r0QQAAAAYAAJ&dq=A+royal+quartette+by+Bearne&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=VM-zLBOO5g&sig=yWBFaQ4xNJL2WBXO5b8gDq5ZsQQ&hl=en&ei=lLW0Scn2JYSPmQfEy7HaBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PPA326,M1
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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 02:27:00 AM »
Mari you are wonderful to have shared that source with us...I had no idea the seizures were quite so severe as to have merited comment!

It is wonderfully generous of you to share your knowledge with us and to provide sources too! Now I am finding myself with plenty more to read! It is a shame I do not read either Spanish or Italian though! But that I suppose is the curse of being English born! It is most frustrating in some instances though!!!!

   

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Re: Spanish Bourbon Infantas
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 02:25:14 AM »
Thank you for sharing that, Mari! That was most touching. I wonder if those horses were part of Duchess Maria Amalia's 'collection'. I have been trying to get that book (A Royal Quartette) online but to no avail.
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