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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2006, 05:53:36 AM »
One more of Frederica.


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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2006, 07:24:33 AM »
Like to know more about her later life, wonder who will have her papers... ???

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2006, 09:41:10 AM »
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Baron P-R was a relative though whereas the Cambridge's chamberlain wasn't. I could see why he would remain at Kew rather than going to the Royal Vault.

Could it be that it was because he died at Biarritz on 20 Nov 1932? Helen, Duchess of Albany, was buried overseas where she died rather than next to Leopold. She didn't want her body to be shipped back. Maybe it was preference rather than precedence.

Yes Grandduchessella I fully agree with you on the preference part.    I found out that the Baron lies buried
in the Cimetiere du Sabaou, Biarritz.
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2006, 03:08:17 AM »
A sad occasion for the House of Hanover.HRH Prince Georg Wilhelm passed away last sunday
in Munich,aged 90.He was the second son of  Duke Ernst August of Braunschweig and Viktoria Luise,only daughter of the Kaiser.

HRH Prince Georg Wilhelm,Duke of Braunschweig and Lüneburg,Prince of Great Britain and Northern Ireland was married to Princess Sophie,Princess of Greece and Denmark(died 2001),and had 3 children,Welf(1947-1981),Georg 1949- ,Friederike 1954-

He was the uncle to HM Queen Sophie and HM King Constantine as well as EA.
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2006, 09:01:08 AM »
Another era ended. Was he the one who fought with VL about the family's estate and inheritances? Does anyone have photos of him with his mother during the post WWII years? Thanks!
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2006, 08:15:08 AM »
Marie of Saxe-Altenberg (1818-1907)

Husband: George V, King of Hannover lost his throne as a result of annexation by Prussia 20 Sep 1866 (1819-

married: Hannover Feb 1843 14 Apr 1818-Gmunden 9 Jan 1907)  
  
children:

Ernst August, Duke of Cumberland; married Princess Thyra of Denmark

Frederika (1848-1926); m.Windsor Castle 1880 Alfons Count von Pawel-Ramingen (Frederika had been mentioned as a possible bride for QV's son Leopld, who did fall for her. She was in love with her future husband though but he wasn't an eligible husband. With Leopold's help she asked for QV for help and QV helped them to marry at Windsor Castle. They lived in England the remainder of their lives and were very close to Fredrika's cousins. She helped facillitate the marriage between Ena Battenberg & Alfonso XIII of Spain)

Mary (1849-1904). Mary was thought of as a potential bride as well--I think for either Alfred or Arthur--but she never married.


Princess Frederika

Hello!

A would like to know more about Princess Frederika. I think she was beautiful, but I've saw just one photo I've posted above. If it's possible can you tell something about her husband Freiherr Alfons von Pawel-Ramingen. What was his family background? And how sorry I've felt for her, her only daughter ( they gave her this names Victoria Georgine Beatrice Maude Anne) died just 20 days after she was born. How teribble! :'(

I know a lot of questions, but she is interesting! :D

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2006, 09:35:05 AM »

As for Frederica--

Her nickname was 'Lily'. She was very close to QV's younger children and Leopold even thought about proposing to her. She remained close to his widow and children later on. It was to Leopold that Lily confided her love for the Baron and he took the case to QV. Lily left for England and married, against her father's wishes, the Baron there--in Windsor perhaps? When Ena, Beatrice's daughter, was being wooed by Alfonso XIII of Spain, it was at Frederica's house in Biarritz that the 2 were allowed to meet in semi-privacy--the press was following the romance closely--and it was there they became engaged. Frederica and her husband are seen in some of the engagement photos taken that day. She rode in the procession at Ena's wedding.


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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #53 on: November 26, 2006, 09:36:47 AM »
Are there books about the Royal House of Hannover?

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2006, 06:45:39 PM »
yes, what would be the good books on the House of Hannover?


also, why were the Hannoverian kings relocated to London? why did they not administer the two kingdoms from Hannover? sheer size of nation?

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #55 on: December 12, 2006, 04:22:05 AM »
yes, what would be the good books on the House of Hannover?


also, why were the Hannoverian kings relocated to London? why did they not administer the two kingdoms from Hannover? sheer size of nation?

thanks!

Well, probably because at the time the big European nations quarreled about who would be the right successor to the British throne and George I and his advisors, felt it would be better if he would be crowned in Great Britain and also lived there.

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #56 on: December 12, 2006, 10:07:43 AM »
In 1701, the British parliament promulgated a new succession law , called the Act of Settlement, which devolved the succession on the Protestant descendants of the Electress Sophia of Hannover.  This was done because William and Mary had no children, and none of Queen's children survived childhood or infancy.  The next in line to the throne (who was not Catholic) was the Sophia, the 13th and youngest child of Princess Elizabeth of England and Scotland, who married the Elector Palatine of the Rhine.  Elizabeth was the daughter of James I of England (and VI of Scotland).  Elizabeth's brother, Charles I succeeded James I.   Charles I was succeeded by his eldest son, Charles II, who had no legitimate issue.  Charles II was suceeded by James II, who had two daughters, Mary and Anne, by his first wife.  He converted to Roman Catholicism, and his second marriage was to a Catholic, Mary of Modena.  It was in 1688, after Mary gave birth to a son, who was baptised Catholic, that Parliament took action.  (There were other factors that led to what is known as the Glorious Revolution, as well).  James II and his family fled, and Parliament invited James' elder daughter, Mary and her husband (and first cousin) William of Orange) to be joint rulers.  Mary died only a few years later. 
Thus, in 1701, Sophia became the heiress presumptive to the British throne (as of 1707 with the Act of Union).  She died in 1714 only a few months before the death of Anne.  Thus, when Anne died, the throne passed to Georg Ludwig, Elector of Hannover.  (Hannover did not become a kingdom until 1814).

He preferred Hannover, but George I also realized that Britain was a more important kingdom ...the family retained ties to Hannover, but there was a lot more prestige and power as king of the UK of GB and Ireland. 

There was no need for European nations to quarrel over who would succeed to the British throne.  In 1701, Georg Ludwig was well aware of the fact that he would one day succeed to the throne.  It was a done deal - and England was one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful nation in Europe, having won numerous battles, thanks to the brilliant leadership of the Duke of Marlborough.
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #57 on: December 19, 2006, 04:38:32 AM »

The next in line to the throne (who was not Catholic) was the Sophia, the 13th and youngest child of Princess Elizabeth of England and Scotland, who married the Elector Palatine of the Rhine. 

So, Sophia married the/an Elector of Hanover-father of George I???

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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #58 on: December 19, 2006, 09:06:50 AM »
Yes, Sophia was married to the Duke of Brunswick-Luneburg, Ernest Augustus (1629-1698) who was also Elector of Hanover. One of their daughters was Sophia Charlotte, who's son Frederick William I of Prussia married George I's daughter Sophia Dorothea and was father to Frederick the Great.
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Re: The House of Hannover,past and present
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2006, 09:20:31 AM »
Yes -


The next in line to the throne (who was not Catholic) was the Sophia, the 13th and youngest child of Princess Elizabeth of England and Scotland, who married the Elector Palatine of the Rhine. 

So, Sophia married the/an Elector of Hanover-father of George I???

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