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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 12:34:30 PM »
Who is the lady wearing the necklace?

Only daughter of Queen Elizabeth II.

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2009, 12:38:07 PM »
Thank you very much, is the necklace in the UK? is the Princess Anna the owner, or she was just using it
that day?
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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2009, 07:11:13 PM »
Thank you very much, is the necklace in the UK? is the Princess Anna the owner, or she was just using it
that day?

I don't know. A lot of jewels have been given to Anne over the years, but the Queen also lends pieces to her family at times.

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009, 11:47:28 AM »
Well, thank you. Perhaps she was using it just for a moment. Do anyone know what happened with
the real or original necklace that belonged to the Tsarina? Or do you know if it belonged to anyone else
before it belonged to Marie Feodorovna?
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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2009, 08:18:26 AM »
Well, thank you. Perhaps she was using it just for a moment. Do anyone know what happened with
the real or original necklace that belonged to the Tsarina? Or do you know if it belonged to anyone else
before it belonged to Marie Feodorovna?

The Pearl choker with sapphire clasp was owned by empress Maria. it could be converted into two bracelets. after MF's death 1928 it was bought by queen mary (as written x-times in other threats) and later inherit by queen elizabeth II. (she wore it as choker and bracelet)..later she lent it to her daughter Anne (I suppose for lifetime - like other items from the Queens Collection to other members of the RF).

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2009, 12:07:14 PM »
Thank you very much for the explanation below, for that reason the Princess Anne is wearing it,
the necklace is hers ;-)
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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2010, 11:28:29 AM »
I love that picture its breathtaking. I really wish someday I'll be lucky enough to have jewlery like that. :)

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2010, 04:58:50 PM »
I wonder who bought the rest of the contents from her jewelry box ?

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2010, 02:58:02 PM »
as stated in some other threat
from 76 items which were in the famous jewels casket which left Russia with MF, and later went into property od Xenia and Olga buyers are
 
Lord Lascalles
Queen Mary
Princess Royal (Mary)
and some marked "sold"

the items sold to the RF are :
item                                               value 1929                price sold   (all sums in pounds)
6               necklace with pearls (est. 1,200-1,700)               1,615 (Lascalles)

7               pearl and diamond choker (est. 5,678-6,000)        6,0000 (QM)
                 with sapphiere clasp

27             garnet saphire diamond
                pendant                         (est. 10)                        10 (Mary, PR)

42            oval saphire diamond
                brooch                          (est. 2,700 - 3,250)
                                                   revised valuation 1930
                                                   1,400 - 1,900                  2,375 (QM)

47           pearl a diamond brooch      550                                555 (QM)

72           cabochon saphiere long
               brooch                            25 - 30                            26.12 (QM)

after some revised valuation on 22nd Sept. 1930 (the market for pearls chrased) QM paid the older valation (11th June 1929) price.      
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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 04:51:13 PM »
Yes we know what the RF got...but the ones that got away ?

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 05:15:57 PM »
some items were left by the GDs for sentimental ground.
some return because they couldn't be sold,
and some were sold.
I remember that there was some where a sugesstion who bought also some items, but forgot where I read it.

this pieces more or less all-day-jewels and no "grand pieces". MF was in Kiev in 1917 and went direct to the Crimea. I never heard or read that some one offered her to do a job like Stopford (smuggled out GD Vladimirs jewels).
and also the valuation shows that there was no real importend piece under this items.

there is another list of items of pieces from the imperial collection which where found in her appartement in Anitchkov. I think all this and other private things went the way of most imperial jewels. packed and sent to Moskov and later sold, broken into pieces for sellings only the precious stones, smellting  the gold and platinum settings.

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2010, 01:04:25 PM »
Well...I read the box contained "ropes & roples of pearls" and precious stones and large as cherries". That did not appear in the RF's collections...

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2010, 05:56:39 AM »
I read this also.
but those are the items. and I think the list is proofed.
maybe the "ropes of pearls" were sold otherwise. and of course some pearls and precious stones are listed.
and for me the size of the saphire - pearl drop brooch has a large size

here QM wore the pendant brooch


and HM wore the russian brooch





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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2010, 07:28:33 AM »

and HM wore the russian brooch





This brooch was NOT among the Dowager Empresses collection it was a wedding present to the future Queen Mary in 1893!

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Re: Jewels of Empress Marie Feodorovna
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2010, 07:34:37 AM »
This was MAria`s brooch, wedding gift of Alexandra to his sister. Queen Mary bought it among other Imperial jewels.


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"...Пусть он землю бережет родную, А любовь Катюша сбережет....". Grand Duchess Ekaterina Fyodorovna to Grand Duke Georgiy Alexandrovich. 1914

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