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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2006, 03:51:01 PM »
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2006, 03:52:36 PM »
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2006, 05:19:06 PM »
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Why she returned??? The answer will always be a mystery. But some have said, that Doria has claimed that in Switserland she had know Lenin and/or Trotsky, and that the Smolny authorities had provided her with a piece of paper, certain certificate with had given her an immunity, to move around Russia.
Could someone elaborate on this.  I just read that Daria was executed in Russia in the 30's.  Is this true?
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2006, 11:44:36 PM »

True. Probably she was shot.
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« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2006, 12:05:19 AM »
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Why she returned??? The answer will always be a mystery. But some have said, that Doria has claimed that in Switserland she had know Lenin and/or Trotsky, and that the Smolny authorities had provided her with a piece of paper, certain certificate with had given her an immunity, to move around Russia.
Could someone elaborate on this.  I just read that Daria was executed in Russia in the 30's.  Is this true?


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Daria Yevgeneevna, Countess de Beauharnais, daughter of HSH Prince Yevgeny Nikolaevich Romanovsky, 5th Duke von Leuchtenberg. She died in 1931 at a Soviet prison camp. [/size]
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2006, 12:37:56 AM »
I read that Daria died later - not in 1931. :-/

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« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2006, 10:34:54 PM »
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I read that Daria died later - not in 1931. :-/

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[size=14]My reference to the 1931 date of death came from: [/size][size=14]Burke's Royal Families of the World, Volume 1 Europe & Latin America, page No. 116[/size]

[size=14]According to Paul Theroff's Online Gotha, Daria was executed at Leningrad on 4 November  1937.[/size]

[size=14]Which one should we believe?[/size]

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2006, 11:27:59 PM »
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I read that Daria died later - not in 1931. :-/

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[size=14]My reference to the 1931 date of death came from: [/size][size=14]Burke's Royal Families of the World, Volume 1 Europe & Latin America, page No. 116[/size]

[size=14]According to Paul Theroff's Online Gotha, Daria was executed at Leningrad on 4 November  1937.[/size]

[size=14]Which one should we believe?[/size]

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Well, I tend to believe Russian sources and researches of Russian historians. According to most of them Daria was executed in 1936-1937 years, though I am not sure about place (Leningrad).

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« Reply #68 on: April 02, 2006, 01:26:05 AM »
I am glad that Daria Leuchtenberg has been brought up, as it gives me my needed excuse to ask about something which has puzzled me. There seems to be some confusion about how many times Daria Leuchtenberg was married, and in which order, that is regarding the third and fourth husbands (that is, if there really was a fourth husband, which some sources deny). Can anyone clarify this?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2006, 05:46:29 PM »
Does anyone have a photo portrait of Count Stefan Tyszkiewicz, the husband of Princess Elena von Leuchtenberg und Eichstadt, and of their daughter Natalia?
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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2006, 02:58:37 PM »
Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, eldest daughter of Emperor Nikolay I


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« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2006, 01:10:49 AM »
I found a biography of Daria Evgenievna de Leuchtenberg that surprised me. According to the following source "Nicholas & Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family of Tsarist Russia," (1998) (a book documenting an exhibit at the Hermitage) Daria returned to Russia NOT ca. 1930, but in 1917, right after the first Revolution! She set off for the Russian-Austrian Front with "a detachment of nurses that she had established with her own money" in 1917. After returning to Russia Daria worked at the World Literature Publishers with Maxim Gorky. From 1924 she worked at the State Public Library in St Petersburg. She died in 1937. This makes more sense to me than her returning in 1930. Does anyone know if this information is correct?

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2006, 12:11:05 PM »
I found a biography of Daria Evgenievna de Leuchtenberg that surprised me. According to the following source "Nicholas & Alexandra: The Last Imperial Family of Tsarist Russia," (1998) (a book documenting an exhibit at the Hermitage) Daria returned to Russia NOT ca. 1930, but in 1917, right after the first Revolution! She set off for the Russian-Austrian Front with "a detachment of nurses that she had established with her own money" in 1917. After returning to Russia Daria worked at the World Literature Publishers with Maxim Gorky. From 1924 she worked at the State Public Library in St Petersburg. She died in 1937. This makes more sense to me than her returning in 1930. Does anyone know if this information is correct?


yes, it' s a well-khown documented fact that Daria returned in about 1917-1918 and was executed in 1937. The last edition of "The Romanovs: How it was" by Z. Belyakova has a chapter with info about Daria's life after revolution.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2006, 08:10:43 PM »
Thank you Svetabel! ;D Every other post on this site and elsewhere online claims she returned ca. 1930. That just seemed so odd to me given that Stalin was in power at that time. I could understand why she might have wanted to return in 1917. A very bad decision in retrospect but understandable. Her country was going through an upheaval. Perhaps she hoped it would change for the better and become something akin to a Republic? Eitherway her returning ca. 1917 makes more sense than a return in 1930.

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Re: Grand Duchess Maria Nikolayevna, and her descendants
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2006, 04:39:57 AM »
Perhaps she hoped it would change for the better and become something akin to a Republic? Eitherway her returning ca. 1917 makes more sense than a return in 1930.

Actually the reasons of her return in 1917-1918 are not clear. Someone thought she was a spy... :-\