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Reply #120
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May 06, 2007, 03:51:41 AM »
Kurt Steiner
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Re: Anne Boleyn
Looking at the monologue by G.S. Stuart at "Tudor England", I heard that he claimed that Anne was called something like "Nanne".
Has anyone heard or read anything about it?
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Reply #121
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basilforever
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Re: Anne Boleyn
I think Elizabeth must have felt some love/attachment to her mother Queen Anne. She wore a ring with both her and her mother's portraits in it. I'll try to find a picture of it later.
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May 06, 2007, 04:32:46 AM »
basilforever
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Re: Anne Boleyn
Some pictures of Her Majesty Queen Anne, who I feel so much empathy for.
I love her B gold and pearls necklace. I want one like that!
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Re: Anne Boleyn
Quote from: Kurt Steiner on May 06, 2007, 03:51:41 AM
Looking at the monologue by G.S. Stuart at "Tudor England", I heard that he claimed that Anne was called something like "Nanne".
Has anyone heard or read anything about it?
"Black Nan" was one of the epithets used I believe.
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Reply #124
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Kurt Steiner
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Re: Anne Boleyn
Quote from: Kimberly on May 06, 2007, 05:54:23 AM
"Black Nan" was one of the epithets used I believe.
Thank you very much, Kimberly!
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Reply #125
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May 12, 2007, 11:29:59 AM »
Kurt Steiner
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A silly doubt. If I remember correctly, Cranmer declared that Anne was never actually married to Henry, on account of an alleged precontract between Henry Percy and Anne, on one side, and Henry's involvement with Anne's sister, on the other.
So, could have this fact been enough to finish off the marriage as it has never existed? Why not using the same old excuse that worked to get him rid of Catherine? Why killing her?
Perhaps he needed to exclude any kind of doubt about the "truth" behind his actions? Perhaps because his first Succession Act decreed Henry's marriage with Catherine invalid and his union with Anne legitimate, stating the throne would go to the sons and then the daughters of the later marriage? he needed a male heir, so he had to got rid of her by killing her?
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Reply #126
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Quote from: Kurt Steiner on May 12, 2007, 11:29:59 AM
A silly doubt. If I remember correctly, Cranmer declared that Anne was never actually married to Henry, on account of an alleged precontract between Henry Percy and Anne, on one side, and Henry's involvement with Anne's sister, on the other.
So, could have this fact been enough to finish off the marriage as it has never existed? Why not using the same old excuse that worked to get him rid of Catherine? Why killing her?
Perhaps he needed to exclude any kind of doubt about the "truth" behind his actions? Perhaps because his first Succession Act decreed Henry's marriage with Catherine invalid and his union with Anne legitimate, stating the throne would go to the sons and then the daughters of the later marriage? he needed a male heir, so he had to got rid of her by killing her?
I believe he thought he couldn't afford to have another marriage only annulled when before he had done everything to present that marriage as legitimate. Might have turned him into a laughing stock, especially as Henry had obviously been aware of his relationship with Mary Boleyn when he decided to marry Anne. Convicting Anne of plotting the king's death, I believe, was the more expedient method since everybody would have pitied the poor king who had been lured into a marriage with a depraved traitor. Moreover, Anne alive might have proved a thorn in the king's side, with potential supporters of her possibly questioning the validity of the King's subsequent marriage(s).
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Kurt Steiner
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Re: Anne Boleyn
That's what I was beginning to think. Better to be the victim of a treachery than a killer.
And Anne had powerful enemies, too. While Henry was searching for a Spanish allilance with the Emperor, she still kept for a French one, IIRC.
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Reply #128
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June 16, 2007, 04:03:20 AM »
Mari
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The part of Anne Boleyn that I have always admired was her courage.
QUEEN ANNE BOLEYN ON THE DAY OF HER EXECUTION
FRIDAY, MAY 19, 1536
This morning she sent for me, that I might be with her at such time as she received the good Lord, to the intent I should hear her speak as touching her innocency alway to be clear. And in the writing of this she sent for me, and at my coming she said, "Mr. Kingston, I hear I shall not die afore noon, and I am very sorry therefore, for I thought to be dead by this time and past my pain ". I told her it should be no pain, it was so little. And then she said, "I heard say the executioner was very good, and I have a little neck", and then put her hands about it, laughing heartily. I have seen many men and also women executed, and that they have been in great sorrow, and to my knowledge this lady has much joy in death. Sir, her almoner is continually with her, and had been since two o'clock after midnight.
From a letter from Sir W. Kingston, Constable of the Tower, to Thomas Cromwell, May 19th, 1536. (spelling modernized)
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Reply #129
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Kurt Steiner
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Indeed. Her courage was admirable till the end.
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Reply #130
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July 14, 2007, 07:00:07 AM »
lady
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Anne Boleyn is my fave Queen. Her personality in XVI should have been overwhelming. What a life!
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Reply #131
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July 22, 2007, 06:06:32 AM »
azrael7171918
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I have recently read a quote from Thomas Cramner Archbishop of Canterbury concerning Anne's execution.
"She who was queen on earth will this day be queen of heaven"
This is said to come from a recent book by Joanne Denny. I have found that this book has terrible reviews.
Is there another source for this quote?
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Reply #132
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Mari
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Re: Anne Boleyn
I brought over my question instead of posting it under Tudor Queens! About Anne Boleyn being argumentative...I have read that She was a very jealous person and that is one of the reason's Henry VIII tired of her. However I haven't read that much about general personality. As I mentioned above I admired her terribly for her bravery..but are there sources from contemporaries that tell us if she was: outgoing...talkative...quiet...funny...dressed well...etc.?
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Reply #133
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Re: Anne Boleyn
I can't remember any direct quotes, but I think the general thinking was that she was witty, 'fiery', lively, that kind of thing.
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Reply #134
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July 23, 2007, 05:11:06 PM »
dmitri
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Re: Anne Boleyn
Yes Anne Boleyn was indeed a tragic figure. How different her life would have been had the son that was born still born been able to live. Medicine in those days was so primitive.
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