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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2005, 10:41:54 AM »
This marriage caused a bit of a to-do because she married Stokes about a month after the execution of her first husband. The baby girl was born and died in 1554 and Frances went on to have 2 sons as well but they both died in infancy. Frances herself died in 1559 and is buried in Westminster Abbey. She might not have been a particularly nice woman but she sure had "guts"and a mind of her own!
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2005, 10:44:38 AM »
She would have been 37 in 1554( Stokes was about 21)
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2005, 11:47:01 PM »
Hi,

My name is Sonja Marie, I own the website The Lady Jane Grey Internet Museum http://www.bitterwisdom.com/ladyjanegrey/ that members might be interested in checking out.

I've been reading books on British history since I was 13 (19 years now), I especially like the Tudors and Jane has been my particular favourite.

I hope if you visit and enjoy my site you'll let me know.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2005, 02:52:32 PM »
Hi Blanche,

You're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

I love finding new stuff I've never seen of Jane, though it seems to get harder to do as time goes by as she was never as famous as other Tudors.  It's like a teasure hunt often you find more trash then treasure.

I'll probably updating in Oct or so, I'm just waiting for permission to post something that is potentially important to those interested in Jane.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2006, 10:31:25 AM »
I think Lady Jane Grey was more a pawn of those around her than anything else, because she had to be, of neccesity. She was an intellectual, but very young, and forced to do what she had to do to survive, which killed in her in the end. Her execution was unfair because she might have been a rebel, but it wasn't her choice. She never loved her husband, but after all, Hollywood turns many stories into love stories that were not to begin with.

It seems to me that Jane had the makings of intolerance in her, yes. She would not have been as tolerant as Elizabeth, not that many were. How much this would have developed would be interesting, but she would in some ways have been a queen of her age, but stronger, and more intellectual than most.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2006, 10:37:59 AM »
Thats interesting;"a queen of her age". Yes, but I have a sneaking feeling it would have been for all the wrong reasons. Ithink she would have ended up with as "bloody" a reputation as Mary IMHO- maybe even more so. I fear she would have developed a dreadful Anti-Catholic regime
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2006, 11:04:35 AM »
That is certainly a possible line of argument. She was very fanatically protestant, and this might have lead her down a bad path, to be very fervently anti-catholic. It is hard to say given her age at death, and changing circumstances, but it is a strong possibility, she would be remembered as less innocent had she lived longer.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2007, 04:28:04 AM »
Thank you again Lucien, you are very kind. :-* :-*
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2007, 05:17:35 AM »
Thats interesting;"a queen of her age". Yes, but I have a sneaking feeling it would have been for all the wrong reasons. Ithink she would have ended up with as "bloody" a reputation as Mary IMHO- maybe even more so. I fear she would have developed a dreadful Anti-Catholic regime

Specially if you have Northumberland ruling hidden behind the throne. I don't have any single doubt that he would have clinged to the crown with all his might and ambition. And we all know what does that mean.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2007, 06:43:45 AM »
Her execution was unfair because she might have been a rebel, but it wasn't her choice.

Even an unwilling rival heir can still attract conspirators & rebels. Her regime was imposed by a minority faction & lasted only 9 days. Still: Mary's extreme Catholicism might've triggered a warped nostalgia for Good Queen Jane. If Jane had been allowed to live, those who became soured on Mary's reign might've (again!) used Jane as a figurehead and attempted another coup.

Mary had no choice but to kill her- no matter her personal inclinations toward mercy. It was, truly, a tragic necessity.
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2007, 09:18:32 AM »
In that era, all that was true. That era saw it the way you see it. I guess I was seeing it from the modern point of view.

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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2007, 07:25:06 PM »
I don't see why she had to execute Guildford as well, though.....
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Re: Lady Jane Grey
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2007, 12:22:44 PM »
I don't see why she had to execute Guildford as well, though.....

Like Jane, he was 'guilty by association'.
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