"Romanovy:Ventsenosnaya semya"

Sarushka,  Did you like the scenes showing his ship design skills?  I was uncomfortable. Naslednik

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I did love myself - 'Bogart' I think it was written, or in English -- 'Boyar'.  ;-). In Ipatiev House, right?

Sarushka,  Did you like the scenes showing his ship design skills?  I was uncomfortable. Naslednik

They didn't bother me as they did you.

Last night, I finally went to Frozen Tears and down loaded the movie.

Kudos to Laura Mabee and Jim and Nina and everyone else who worked on this beautiful movie and added the sub titles.

While I was watching it, my son came in to see what I was doing and he had another brilliant thought.  He had me copy the individual clips to a flash drive and then he put the flash drive through his Play Station 3 with a program that allows me to watch the whole move in the comfort of my living room on my LCD TV.

What a treat to watch it on a wide screen!

I have not gotten through the whole move yet, but the only thing that bothers me so far is that Lynda Bellingham looks too much like Michael Learned of "Ma Walton" fame.  I keep expecting her to yell out "Hey, John-Boy!"  at any minute.

As for some of the other criticisms that I read while editing this sub-forum, everyone has to remember that this is a movie and the story tellers have to add things that seem strange to us in order to tell the story so that those who don't have the research background like we do can understand what is going on.

Hi Nena, I think that the boat was "Bogatyr".  I don't speak Russian, but a Bogatyr is a medieval knight, yes?  I'm thinking of Vasnetsov's painting.  We don't have a good english word for bogatyr, do we? -- England's knights were not hefty enough!

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I think you are right. But also look here:

http://www.steelnavy.com/images/1250Broman/1250Producers/Bogatyr02.jpg

Model of a ship!

Hey it's a bogatyr ship, and who designed it?

I just finished watching the movie last night.  Laura and Jim and Nena and the crew did an amazing job.  My husband was, as he put it, "locked into it" and sat with me through parts 3-5.  He was so angry at the end.  He kept saying that there was no reason to do something like that.

(We've been married for almost 26 years and evidently my Romanov passion has never sunk in to him before.)

About the "ship building".  I am sure it was fiction and I don't know why anyone would be "uncomfortable" with it.  Alexei says it will be the ship of the future and the tonnage would be 10,000.  Titanic sank in 1912 and its tonnage was 45,000.  Perhaps I missed something in the translation, but since Ipatiev House was in 1918, that made Alexei about 6 years behind the "future".

Personally, I think that the doctor was wrong in saying that Alexei would not live past his 16th birthday.  He had no way to know and as Alexei became an adult he would have taken better care of himself and been more likely to avoid the things that would cause bleeding.

I loved the on location filming and seeing the Palace in color was wonderful.

This movie is definitely superior to Nicholas & Alexandra.  It still had things in it that were fiction, but over all it was more believable.

My favorite scene - the beginning shot of the palace brightly lit against the night.  It was hauntingly beautiful.

I thought that the film also captured the relationship between Olga and Nicholas well also. Wether it was the scene in the bedroom at AP,  the piano at Tobolsk, or the similar poses in the murder scene - they all capture the father-daughter love well.

True, but on the other hadn it didn´t  show at all the closeness and understadnig between Tatiana and Alix...

Ah you're right Ally I never thought of that. I can only think of one scene where they are in a conversation with each other, but even then Alexi is with them, in the Alexander palace

Yes, and it´s not really a loving conversation.... Olga is present too and Tatiana is nearly weeping.

I think that when Tatiana says that she is going to send a telegram and Alix talks to her about it, it shows an understanding of their relationship.

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Yes, it is correct. But Maria is not so often appeared/ portrayed, IMO.

Alexei was a very sick boy after his hemorrhage in Tobolsk, and was unlikely to be designing ships.  I was uncomfortable with much of the character portrayal of Alexei, probably for the reason Greg King mentioned; it seemed overly worshipful and verged on propaganda.  Bolshevik propaganda confused the facts in one direction, so I want to avoid a similar swing.