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Burial Location of Rasputin
« on: June 05, 2004, 10:24:40 PM »
Does anyone know the exact, original, burial location of Rasputin on the Palace grounds?

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2004, 01:02:17 AM »
Joanna,

Thanks.  I had not seen the map.

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2004, 01:48:45 PM »
Do you mean where his body was originally buried? Wasn't  Rasputin's body dug up from the grave by the revolutionaries in 1917 and burned? If I remember correctly, I don't think anyone knows what happend to the remains after that, but I could be wrong.. :-/.

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2004, 02:04:18 PM »
I always heard that his body was buried in the Alexander Park on the spot where Anya Vyrbova wanted to put a church. There was an article in the St. Petersburg Times two years ago about this site and its location.  8)

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2004, 01:50:08 PM »
David and Helen, you are both right. Rasputin's body was indeed originally buried in a chapel in a corner of the Imperial Park where Anna Vyrubova was building a church. However, he was dug up in March 1917. From Nicholas and Alexandra:

"Sometime after midnight, another band of soldiers broke into the tiny chapel in the Imperial Park which had become Rasputin's tomb and exhumed the coffin. They took it to a clearing in the forest, pried off the lid and, using sticks to avoid touching the putrefying corpse, lifted what remained of Rasputin onto a pile of pine logs. The body and logs were drenched with gasoline and set on fire. For more than six hours, the body burned while an icy wind howled through the clearing and clouds of pungent smoke rose from the pyre. Along with the soliders, a group of peasants gathered, silent and afraid, to watch through the night as the final scene of this baleful drama was played. It had happened as Rasputin once predicted: he would be killed and his body not left in peace, but burned, with his ashes scattered to the winds."

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2004, 02:16:55 PM »
Whereas a human body cannot be burned that simple, they should have left the body somewhere in the woods...
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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2004, 04:19:25 PM »
As far as I am aware, Rasputin's corpse was cremated on the road outside the house of Dr Badmaev in the district of Pargolova north of St Petersburg.

An icon which was presented to Alexandra by a very old nun in a Novgorod convent and which Anna Vuroubova delivered to Rasputin on the morning of the day he died, bore the signatures of Alexandra and her children.   This had been placed upon Rasputin's chest.  

When the coffin was exhumed and opened in the Alexander Park, the icon was removed.   It was kept by someone in Tsarskoe Selo before it was eventually sold.   Its present whereabouts are unknown, but it is believed to be in the US.

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2004, 08:44:21 PM »
I think Penny or Greg could explain this better, but
after reding Massieīs Last Chapter, i now know that a body cannot be cremated in six hours or even a day. I mean for making it become ashes and then scatter them to the winds. Itīs simply not possible; so his body, though damaged, should be in good condition even after many hours of being burned. They simply did not burn his body and scattered the ashes. His body was necessarily left somewhere after being burned.

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Re: Burial Location of Rasputin
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2004, 07:25:09 AM »
Antonio,

You're absolutely right, it's impossible to burn a human body completely, even after hours of burning, unless  certain temperature is reached, such as what they use in professional cremation. As I mentioned in my previous posting, they tried to burn his body but what they did with the remains of it no one seems to know for sure. They may have just left them in the woods to decompose, or they may have brought them somewhere else and dumped them, or they may have been reburied in the park somewhere.  I think at that time things were such a mess that it's probably impossible to establish what really happend for sure...

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I think Penny or Greg could explain this better, but
after reding Massieīs Last Chapter, i now know that a body cannot be cremated in six hours or even a day. I mean for making it become ashes and then scatter them to the winds. Itīs simply not possible; so his body, though damaged, should be in good condition even after many hours of being burned. They simply did not burn his body and scattered the ashes. His body was necessarily left somewhere after being burned.